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Jumpin said:

I personally don't get achievements myself. They kind of remind me of a person praising their pet dog for fetching the ball, or in the case of achievements, fetching the ball 7,000 times.

Bragging rights? How often has a person gone online and said: "Wow! That guy got the achievement for fetching the ball 7,000 times! I am impressed!!!!"

It's bloody ridiculous!


Maybe he just has fun getting them. I know i would rather play an okay game with them and a great game without them. Getting the trophies is fun for me. No way around it.



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Azelover said:

The worst thing that ever happened was Sony saying AMEN to this ridiculous feature, now it's considered standard.


It's not cool until Sony does it, too. Sony made motion control cool :)



i think nintendo needs to change thier minds and add a reward system similar to what metriod prime 3 had in it. it is the closest thing nintendo has to a achievements/trophies in a game ever. if nintendo gave the developers the option to have a reward system, maybe 3rd party games would sell better and then the wii, its next system would have more core titles from the 3rd parties because they know then besides making a good game, the rewards would give there games a longer sales potential. sony added trophies, because it saw how 3rd party games on both systems sold better on the 360 since it had achievements in them. i think nintendo is making a long term mistake, by not including some sort of reward system for its games.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
melbye said:

Achievements become a problem when that's the only reason to play a game. A couple of weeks ago i read somewhere that someone said that they would rather play a bad game with achievements than a great game without them. That is just wrong


I wonder if that was even an opinion or just a marketing guy planted in there.

Unless Twesterm's been building up trust in this community for years just so he could begin subtly shilling for whoever planted him, i find that doubtful.

Anyhoo, i'd like the idea of Achievements if they were worth anything. That was way i was excited by the idea that the Pedometer "coins for in-game unblockables" system might extend to in-game achievements, but as Achievements and Trophies are implemented, they're little more than a distraction as far as i'm concerned.

Ideally i'd see, for instance, every 1,000 Gamerscore on your Live profile net you an extra 100 MS Points for free. Now that would be worthwhile



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Mr Khan said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
melbye said:

Achievements become a problem when that's the only reason to play a game. A couple of weeks ago i read somewhere that someone said that they would rather play a bad game with achievements than a great game without them. That is just wrong


I wonder if that was even an opinion or just a marketing guy planted in there.

Unless Twesterm's been building up trust in this community for years just so he could begin subtly shilling for whoever planted him, i find that doubtful.

Anyhoo, i'd like the idea of Achievements if they were worth anything. That was way i was excited by the idea that the Pedometer "coins for in-game unblockables" system might extend to in-game achievements, but as Achievements and Trophies are implemented, they're little more than a distraction as far as i'm concerned.

Ideally i'd see, for instance, every 1,000 Gamerscore on your Live profile net you an extra 100 MS Points for free. Now that would be worthwhile


Well... he's also part of a game developer, that has an interest in supporting what game features and tech are popular, so there are some comments I take a grain of salt from him.



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achievements and trophies have been the WORST thing to games imo.  Gone are the secret things to do to get IN-GAME items or costumes or whatever.  Now you get some stupid "hey you got a trophy or achivement"  

why the hell shoudl i care about that.  I want to unlock something in the game, get some hidden item or level or car, or whatever it is for whatever game.  But no we get f*cking achievements and have to buy extras with downloads.



Thats why i like Nintendo :D



Thank you Nintendo for keeping this stupid marketing gimmick out of your games.



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well they can have the "Hidden Achievement"  or the "????" trophies, so if they are worried about that then they should hide them, that way , the players aren't going to be seeing how to get them, and better yet not include a list at all, so that the player won't know how many Achievements/trophies they have left in the game which is where the "Suprise"comes into action



Well, I wouldn't exactly fall off my chair in pain if they decided to implement virtual medals, but I prefer having unlockable content. Of course, there could be both.

For me to like a reward system it would have to be quite "flexible" though. The amount of rewards shouldn't have to be the same fo every game; let the developers decide how many achievements to put in their games; let them decide whether they actually want achievements in their games or not as well. There are too many games where achievements are collected by simply moving to the next chapter...

It would also need to be linked to some greater award than a mere virtual medal. Let me unlock new content for my medals or something like that.