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I think there should be less "journalist" like her...



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Apostrovich said:

But that's even worse, though it's almost the same thing. Less detail, worse graphics, and you play with a pen? Yeah, I'll take that over a PS3. I stand by my original position, Nintendo is doing more than fine with it's "kiddy" games, of which I intend to buy several, and they're not going to get much of anywhere trying to sell M rated games to 13 year olds and grandmas, no matter which of their systems it's on, 3D or no.


wow is about all i have to say to this post

its posts like this that make me enjoy looking at gaming forums



Apostrovich said:

Jesus......I agree with her, actually.

Reading the rest of your post that doesn't say much. 



Metallicube said:
leo-j said:

well you guys don't have to be dramatic, it's just her opinion. Some people don't like nintendo games, some people don't like playstation games.. that's just how it is.

I know. I'm not hating her for having an opinion. I'm just hating her opinion, and think it's dumb.

I just think it's funny that she basically admitted that she will dislike Nintendo no matter what they do. If Nintendo makes their games, she will hate them because she's not a Nintendo fan. If "mature" games are made on Nintendo systems, she will feel underwhelmed because they are on Nintendo systems..

At least she's being honest of her fanboyism (or fangirlism in this case).

This explains the circularity of that argument well. It's in no way limited to just her, either, but there are a lot of people who, in one instance, will say "hey, put that on a real platform and i'll buy it, otherwise no thanks." but then turn around and complain "Wii has nothing I want." Basically this mentality that being on the Wii makes it unlikeable, and therefore that the Wii can have no likeable titles by default.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

SaviorX said:

On the internet, there is anonymity. No one will know who you are, so you cannot be held accountable for much that you say. Frankly, you can say whatver you want.

This case is different.

She put herself out there just like any other person remotely visible on a public internet domain.

You're not making a lick of sense.  "Well unlike me Morgan Webb doesn't hide her identity behind a forum name and an avatar, so it's fine to treat her in a sexist manner."

So the next time that you disagree with, say, Lolita or trashleg, the only reason you won't be calling her a "bitch who needs to be muzzled" is that you don't know her real name?

SaviorX said:

What I did here, matches her ignorance 1:1.

No, what you did here was take a stupid stance on a video game company and respond with male chauvinism.  It's like a stranger heard your mother say something stupid and respond with "And you're a cunt."

But I'm sure you'd be cool with that, right?

SaviorX said:

How do I sound calling her a bitch with a muzzle and future porn career?

Like a12-year old boy on X-Box Live, and I'm being generous.

SaviorX said:

 Also, if you have ever been on youtube/Xbox Live, you know that users will not hesistate to discriminate on race.

And if you've ever been on those same sites, you'd know that those same idiots will slur your race, religion, and display other behavior that will rightfully get you permabanned from this site.

We are not YouTube, and you should be ashamed for comparing this community to it.

SaviorX said:

I think in terms of strictly this case, A man saying the same thing as Morgan would be called a troll, no matter what race or nationality (Greek, Black, Asian, White, Middle Eastern, Hispanic). Look at Pachter.His race or creed has nothing to do with the content of his review. Criticizing anything about it would be so random. "What do white guys know about gaming? Black guys know nothing of FPSs!".......??????What?

It's amazing; you clearly know exactly where the hypocrisy is, but you don't acknowledge it.

SaviorX said:

Like I said before, women are still a minority in gaming. Despite what you think noname, that everything is peachy-keen and women are cool in gaming now, that isn't the case.

Kindly do not do me the disservice of pretending that I said something when I did not.  Address my point rather than building a straw man and talking to it instead.

SaviorX said:

They are still thrown in with the soccer moms and casual brand. There are people who have no problem with women reviewing things or providing feedback. But why does Morgan have to be the odd girl out?

...what?  I'm not sure if you're saying that we can be sexists because there are relatively few women gamers (gee, why might that be?!), or if you're saying that we should all have a problem with Morgan Webb being in the gaming press.  Neither one makes any sense.

SaviorX said:

 No one says she can't have an opinion, but why does she explain it like such a bimbo?

For the same reason that applies to Dameon Hatfield and over half the gaming press: because she's an idiot.  Her gender has nothing to do with that, and you have no right to insinuate otherwise.

SaviorX said:

She is behaving like a stereotype. A stereotype including "valley girls" or women who behave flippantly, or female sports watchers that don't know what they are talking about.

I can see there is no point in continuing with you.  I just hope that someday you come to realize that hating someone for their gender is as retarded as hating someone for their race or nationality.



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Only on the internet can find people willing to defend Morgan Webb not liking a 3rd party game because it's on 3DS. The 3DS is  more powerful than the PSP and boosts 3D graphics. Considering that she didn't like Mario Galaxy because it wasn't the 3D enough I find her opinion laughable. She reminds me of those political shows in which Democrats and Republicans disagree with each other simply because they aren't in the same party. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if its a stupid opinion you are allowed to call them out on the carpet for it.



axumblade said:

She did say she loves Golden Sun...So she at least said she liked 1 game that was showcased.

And again, the whole "Non-Nintendo games on Nintendo systems" is actually a fairly common view from people who are big on the HD graphics.

And to be fair, she didn't jump up and say how much she loved the other conferences either. I think overall, she was just disappointed with most of e3 this year is what it sounded like to me. Nintendo being her least favorite because she isn't a big fan of Nintendo. It's the same as some members on here that don't like Sony insist Microsofts conference was better than Sony because the "3D is a gimmick and the Playstation Move is the same thing as Wii motion controls."


You are ignoring my point.

How is it rational to not like mature games simply because they are on a console named Nintendo?



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

 

I don't really want to get in to your discussions too deeply, but I never really thought of "bitch" as being a sexist word, even if it is somewhat exclusive to describing females and has misogynistic tones depending on context. From how it was used here though, it judges an individual on thier perceived attitude not every person who happens to be a woman or because they are a woman. Even though some other statements  in here obviously show signs of sexism, I don't consider "bitch", in this context, as sexist, although it isn't a word I would really like to use and definitely not one that should be used because of video games. Going somewhere even more offtopic, I'd like to say that  racism and sexism aren't defined by hate for a race or a sex, but rather a superiority/inferiority complex based off of whatever physical or psychological differences there might be between different races and sexes. Hate could be one form of many emotions that can motivate this thought of superiority. It could also derive from it, but "sexism" and "racism" aren't limited to hate nor do they require it. Heck many forms of sexism are rooted in the opposite direction with the idea that women need to be protected from the world because they are much more precious and fragile than men, whom are more easily replaced. 



Kage848 said:

ok wait i had to pause it. WTF is wrong with this women? I like mature games, just not on a Nintendo system? I'm sorry your a stupid bitch. I really hate to be like that but your a fangirl pos Nintendo hater. Just STFU already.

Can we now put this person on the same lvl as IGN? It time!

Morgen Web your shunned.


Yeah I couldn't understand her logic behind that.  I don't own a Wii yet but I never had a problem enjoying Resident Evil 0, 1, and 4 on my Gamecube.  She overlooks the fact that a lot of long running mature franchises were on a Nintendo system before Sony or Microsoft had entered gaming.



noname2200 said:
SaviorX said:

On the internet, there is anonymity. No one will know who you are, so you cannot be held accountable for much that you say. Frankly, you can say whatver you want.

This case is different.

She put herself out there just like any other person remotely visible on a public internet domain.

You're not making a lick of sense.  "Well unlike me Morgan Webb doesn't hide her identity behind a forum name and an avatar, so it's fine to treat her in a sexist manner."

You were asking why people were so mysogonist in this thread. I told you. When she puts herself out there, she leaves herself open to criticism. Any old poster can say what they want, but at the end of the day, no one knows who they are or can hold them to a word they say. People can with Morgan.

So the next time that you disagree with, say, Lolita or trashleg, the only reason you won't be calling her a "bitch who needs to be muzzled" is that you don't know her real name?

The only reason no one would call either of them that is because their behavior wouldn't warrant such a response. I doubt either woman would behave in such a trollish manner as Morgan. If they did I still doubt someone would, at least on VGC. But posters here are in a place where their criticism of the woman can go unpunished. Odds are Morgan won't see it.

SaviorX said:

What I did here, matches her ignorance 1:1.

No, what you did here was take a stupid stance on a video game company and respond with male chauvinism.  It's like a stranger heard your mother say something stupid and respond with "And you're a cunt."

I already told you that I took it to an extreme, but that was to prove a point. You are asking for WHY PEOPLE ARE BEHAVING THIS way and I'm showing it to you.

But I'm sure you'd be cool with that, right?

SaviorX said:

How do I sound calling her a bitch with a muzzle and future porn career?

Like a 12-year old boy on X-Box Live, and I'm being generous.

Exactly, that's the entire point. I am asking you, how ignorant would it sound to say such a stupid thing?  Her stupid statements in my mind made just as much sense; it was so ignorant that I couldn't wrap my head around it.

SaviorX said:

 Also, if you have ever been on youtube/Xbox Live, you know that users will not hesistate to discriminate on race.

And if you've ever been on those same sites, you'd know that those same idiots will slur your race, religion, and display other behavior that will rightfully get you permabanned from this site.

I'm  sounding like a broken record here..........

We are not YouTube, and you should be ashamed for comparing this community to it.

SaviorX said:

I think in terms of strictly this case, A man saying the same thing as Morgan would be called a troll, no matter what race or nationality (Greek, Black, Asian, White, Middle Eastern, Hispanic). Look at Pachter.His race or creed has nothing to do with the content of his review. Criticizing anything about it would be so random. "What do white guys know about gaming? Black guys know nothing of FPSs!".......??????What?

It's amazing; you clearly know exactly where the hypocrisy is, but you don't acknowledge it.

A man saying such things would also be bashed to high heaven. The fact that is a woman fosters different insults from people in attempt to defame [her] name. The insults are just gender specific. NO ONE IN THIS THREAD said that "because she is a woman, she knows nothing about gaming, or GIRLS don't belong, etc"

This is not an attack on entire gender, just Morgan.

SaviorX said:

Like I said before, women are still a minority in gaming. Despite what you think noname, that everything is peachy-keen and women are cool in gaming now, that isn't the case.

Kindly do not do me the disservice of pretending that I said something when I did not.  Address my point rather than building a straw man and talking to it instead.

When you go off on this moral crusade to chastise me as a chauvinist-mysogonist what else could I possibly infer from what you wrote? I was only getting back on-topic instead of trying to write around your monologue.

SaviorX said:

They are still thrown in with the soccer moms and casual brand. There are people who have no problem with women reviewing things or providing feedback. But why does Morgan have to be the odd girl out?

...what?  I'm not sure if you're saying that we can be sexists because there are relatively few women

For Petes sake...there is a segment, of gaming, that still lingers, in which women are viewed UNRIGHTFULLY and given a negative position in gaming. I'm not saying lets all be sexists blah blah blah

gamers (gee, why might that be?!), or if you're saying that we should all have a problem with Morgan Webb being in the gaming press. 

Then I explicitly said there is another segment, which has no problem, with women taking part in gaming and expanding within it. It just sucks that this Morgan Webb girl, one of the few female voices that gets a fair amount of recognition, emits behavior that reflects poorly on the rest of her female colleagues. She is somewhat popular, so what she says reaches much farther than what a guy in tis case would say, because she is one of the few. Like I said, the few will be judged.

If anything, you are using a strawman argument, because I typed more than that but you picked apart pieces to help your own point.

Neither one makes any sense.

SaviorX said:

 No one says she can't have an opinion, but why does she explain it like such a bimbo?

For the same reason that applies to Dameon Hatfield and over half the gaming press: because she's an idiot.  Her gender has nothing to do with that, and you have no right to insinuate otherwise.

I did not insinuate otherwise. Like stated above, she was in a place where everyone was giving praise and positive INFORMED reaction to the 3DS and such at the time, and she was out there making a fool of herself...again. I AGREE that her gender has nothing to do with her behavior, I never said it did.

The manner in which explains herself lends her absolutely no credibility.

SaviorX said:

She is behaving like a stereotype. A stereotype including "valley girls" or women who behave flippantly, or female sports watchers that don't know what they are talking about.

I can see there is no point in continuing with you.  I just hope that someday you come to realize that hating someone for their gender is as retarded as hating someone for their race or nationality.

I don't hate her because she is a woman. I don't like her because she is misinformed and could potentially confuse new/curious gamers with her misinformed diatribes. I said she is behaving like a stereotype which reflects poorly on her. I am explaining her behavior to you, once again, so you can see why people instantly bash her. You are reading so extremely far into everything that I say that you have crafted an argument based on things you are insinuating I am saying, rather than what I actually typed.

Sheesh. I never expected this from the Master of Rune Factory lol



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