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Biden posted a lie about Social Security and tried to claim Bernie was lying on him, and then this swiftly happened right after



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uran10 said:

Biden posted a lie about Social Security and tried to claim Bernie was lying on him, and then this swiftly happened right after

Best ad of the political season. A fantastic way to wake up boomers to the fact that their benefits are in danger come 2035.



Moren said:

Yikes. "The nuance of the English language" "language barrier". I expected that from other not-so-good users here @HylianSwordsman, not from you.

I really think this gaming thing is nowhere near the big deal you're making it out to be. The context is that Biden was attacking the arrogance of Silicon Valley billionaires. The interview was not about gaming, or gaming as a form of art. I don't believe EA CEOs are artists (as a matter of fact, I don't believe EA games are art) so this is a pretty odd hill to die on.

I does NOT matter which executive it was, or even whether games are "art". What matters is that Joe Biden is a "video games cause violence" asshole, and I don't trust him not to promote a tax on "violent video games" as president. He says he wants to reach out to Republicans, and with a Joe Biden presidency leading the Democratic party, with a Republican Senate, I could absolutely see Joe making such a tax with bipartisan support after the inevitable high death toll school shooting that will happen during the next presidency, and he'll talk as if he's done something about gun violence, when he won't have and the gaming community will suffer for it.

But go ahead and try to imply that I'm racist against a European. Me calling out the language barrier is giving him an out. If he were a native speaker and actually thought that Joe Biden was saying the game executive thought games teach killing, I'd have some actually unkind things to say. So before he calls me a liar, or a spreader of fake news, maybe he should be sure he understands what he's reading.

And I see you once again love to obfuscate things by trying to make it about something it obviously isn't. Anything to avoid the actual issue. You can't possibly have thought this was about the "games as art" argument. Joe Biden took something that was SUPPOSED to be about Silicon Valley billionaires, a pretty universally reviled group, and made it about video games causing violence, a bullshit Republican talking point. That's what this is about. Video games do NOT cause violence, and I'm HAPPY to die on that hill.



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It seems if Biden wins the primary, Trump will stay four more years in the White House.



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Why am I getting flashbacks of Jeb?

Biden is gonna lose either way. His sole purpose behind his campaign is to fill Youtube with cringe compilations, he just doesn't know it yet. The sooner he's out the shorter the compilations will be. 



LurkerJ said:

Why am I getting flashbacks of Jeb?

Biden is gonna lose either way. His sole purpose behind his campaign is to fill Youtube with cringe compilations, he just doesn't know it yet. The sooner he's out the shorter the compilations will be. 

They even share the same initials together ^^



LurkerJ said:

Why am I getting flashbacks of Jeb?

Biden is gonna lose either way. His sole purpose behind his campaign is to fill Youtube with cringe compilations, he just doesn't know it yet. The sooner he's out the shorter the compilations will be. 

Just being honest, as a person, I actually find JEB! to be a lot more like likable than Joe or Hillary. He gives off this hapless, awkward nerd vibe that I relate to. Wouldn't vote for him, but he's not a bad dude, he just inspires more pity than respect. That last cringe in the video kind of encompasses his whole reason for running, "Please love me, mom! I can be president too, watch!"

Biden, on the other hand, I don't find likable, at all. Biden actually is even more cringey than Jeb as far as I'm concerned, but instead of inspiring pity like Jeb, with Biden he just feels...slimy...same with Hillary. Objectively, I know all three have a similar ideology, and would fall under neoliberalism, but man, with Jeb I was embarrassed for him, with Hillary I was embarrassed for myself that this was supposed to be the person who would represent the party I was supporting. It's going to be the same with Joe. Hillary I wish would just crawl into a hole and never leave, and when Joe ultimately loses, or even if he wins, when he goes on to be a corporate sleaze as President, I'm going to wish he'd crawl into a hole and never leave. Jeb, I'm quite content for him to stay out and be his hilariously awkward self. His political career is pretty much over I think at this point, but he's still good for a laugh.



HylianSwordsman said:

Biden, on the other hand, I don't find likable, at all. Biden actually is even more cringey than Jeb as far as I'm concerned, but instead of inspiring pity like Jeb, with Biden he just feels...slimy...same with Hillary. Objectively, I know all three have a similar ideology, and would fall under neoliberalism, but man, with Jeb I was embarrassed for him, with Hillary I was embarrassed for myself that this was supposed to be the person who would represent the party I was supporting. It's going to be the same with Joe. Hillary I wish would just crawl into a hole and never leave, and when Joe ultimately loses, or even if he wins, when he goes on to be a corporate sleaze as President, I'm going to wish he'd crawl into a hole and never leave. Jeb, I'm quite content for him to stay out and be his hilariously awkward self. His political career is pretty much over I think at this point, but he's still good for a laugh.

I think most people in the progressive movement in the US wish she would do this (maybe even some establishment democrats as well) but she's addicted to being the center of attention, to be in the spotlight even if a large share of Americans hate her.

If there's ever a Female president in her lifetime I think she's going to be right there, desperately reaching for the cameras saying "See? This wouldn't have happened without me. I made her win possible!" etc etc etc.



ruior said:

Thanks, it gives me some references. I already know most of them. I also see David Pakman that is on the other side of the coin, let's say. 

But I like to check and balance him with Shapiro for example and vice versa.

I see a lot of talk about the "mainstream media" but low on what are the good media sources so is good to see some light on the end of that "dark tunnel", let's say.

When you say "Apple News had a rough relationship with RT Russia, " you are saying that that is good or bad to the Apple News side? You think RT Russia is a good news source?


Another channel that I check from time to time: 

As for RT new, Apple News didn't even include them when the service launched, then they added them but now they removed them again. As I mentioned, I like to be exposed to different views, RT news gives me something that isn't regularly discussed on American news media.

Again, I always tread carefully, regardless of the sources. 

Last edited by LurkerJ - on 24 January 2020

Something interesting is happening currently: Sanders did not break 20% in average national polling since Biden entered the race - until now. Both in the RCP and the 538 average:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/national/

Also Bloomberg is currently in the process of overtaking Buttigieg.



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