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Forums - Politics Discussion - Donald Trump: How Do You Feel about Him Now? (Poll)

 

Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577
jason1637 said:
SpokenTruth said:

You have absolutely no idea what a leader is, do you?  Or the concept of leading by example.

Leading by behavior is something Trump is bad at but honestly it does not matter a lot to me cause I feel like changing yourself to fit into someone you're not is worse than just being yourself.  Also I do find it entertaining when Trump talks shit and starts twitter beef.

The reason Trump cannot lead by behavior is because he lack the qualities.  What actual qualities does Trump has as a leader that you can call out.  He is the President and as the President he leads the nation.  If the only quality you can think of is having immature twitter shittalking fights with everyone then I guess you have the president you always wanted.



Machiavellian said:
jason1637 said:

Leading by behavior is something Trump is bad at but honestly it does not matter a lot to me cause I feel like changing yourself to fit into someone you're not is worse than just being yourself.  Also I do find it entertaining when Trump talks shit and starts twitter beef.

The reason Trump cannot lead by behavior is because he lack the qualities.  What actual qualities does Trump has as a leader that you can call out.  He is the President and as the President he leads the nation.  If the only quality you can think of is having immature twitter shittalking fights with everyone then I guess you have the president you always wanted.

I really dont care if a President does not lead by behavior as long as they get good stuff done. He has lead the country for like 2 years now so i'd say he has leadership qualities like working with others.



jason1637 said:
Machiavellian said:

The reason Trump cannot lead by behavior is because he lack the qualities.  What actual qualities does Trump has as a leader that you can call out.  He is the President and as the President he leads the nation.  If the only quality you can think of is having immature twitter shittalking fights with everyone then I guess you have the president you always wanted.

I really dont care if a President does not lead by behavior as long as they get good stuff done. He has lead the country for like 2 years now so i'd say he has leadership qualities like working with others.

I understand you do not care if a President doesn't lead by behavior but then again you cannot dismiss it.  Its part of that person character and it still what motivates and moves that person.  A crime lord can do good as well but would you consider that great if he killed a lot of people to make it happen.  There is a big difference being President and actually being an effective president.  Can you show where he has been effective as President.  Where within his administration has he shone as being a good leader and effective in getting things done.  I am very interested in the list you can provide because I already provided one where he hasn't.



SpokenTruth said:
jason1637 said:

I really dont care if a President does not lead by behavior as long as they get good stuff done. He has lead the country for like 2 years now so i'd say he has leadership qualities like working with others.

Do you really believe that or were you just joking?  I'm really hoping it's the latter.

I will be honest and say I believe Jason is jerking our chain but I am all ears in seeing his response.



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SpokenTruth said:
jason1637 said:

I really dont care if a President does not lead by behavior as long as they get good stuff done. He has lead the country for like 2 years now so i'd say he has leadership qualities like working with others.

Do you really believe that or were you just joking?  I'm really hoping it's the latter.

I dont like evrything the dude does but there are some things that he has done well. And yeah he does work with others. Mose bills passed last congress were actually bipartisan and Trump never vetoed a bill last congress.

Machiavellian said:
jason1637 said:

I really dont care if a President does not lead by behavior as long as they get good stuff done. He has lead the country for like 2 years now so i'd say he has leadership qualities like working with others.

I understand you do not care if a President doesn't lead by behavior but then again you cannot dismiss it.  Its part of that person character and it still what motivates and moves that person.  A crime lord can do good as well but would you consider that great if he killed a lot of people to make it happen.  There is a big difference being President and actually being an effective president.  Can you show where he has been effective as President.  Where within his administration has he shone as being a good leader and effective in getting things done.  I am very interested in the list you can provide because I already provided one where he hasn't.

Like I said above he has done things i dong agree with but I think its crazy to say he has not doen anything good.

1. Lots of jobs created and wages have been increasing the quickest in a decade.

2. Millions of Americans are no longer on food stamps.

3.Tax bill helps small businesses and the middle class. It also helped the rich but meh.

4. A lot of deregulation.

5. Right to try which gives people the chance to test medication that might help them.

6. He has given lots of money to fight Opioid (Im 50/50 on this but most people would consider it a good thing).

7. Has been trying to reduce the cost of medicine.

8. Nominated Gorsuch and Kavanaugh to the SC.

9. Ended the Iran nuclear deal.

10. Returning troops from the Middle East.

11. Has helped veterans with the Va Missions act or whatever it was called.

12. Started reforming the criminal justice system with the First Step Act.

13. ISIS almost defeated.

14. Giving more money to low income neighborhoods.

15. Investing more in AI.

16. Promoting School choice.

17. DoJ lawsuit to end affirmative action.

18. His policies to counter abortion.

There are probably more.



SpokenTruth said:

And on today's episode of Trump's Ego:

"I gave him [Senator John McCain] the kind of funeral that he wanted, which as president I had to approve. I don’t care about this, I didn't get a thank you. That's OK,"

Attacking the dead again. AGAIN!

Regarding the "I didn't get a thank you" bit, it reminds me of an old Chris Rock joke about James Earl Ray, the man convicted of killing Martin Luther King Jr:

"Now, old James is a little crazy. He seems like the kind of guy who would be walking around in prison on Martin Luther King Day saying 'Everybody got the day off, and no one even bothered to thank me!' "



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

SpokenTruth said:
jason1637 said:

I really dont care if a President does not lead by behavior as long as they get good stuff done. He has lead the country for like 2 years now so i'd say he has leadership qualities like working with others.

Do you really believe that or were you just joking?  I'm really hoping it's the latter.

I would say that he could very well have leadership qualities,but not the ones needed to be president. :p

To get where he is now and what he "achieved" in the past would be hard attainable without a bit of leadership skills.



SpokenTruth said:

And on today's episode of Trump's Ego:

"I gave him [Senator John McCain] the kind of funeral that he wanted, which as president I had to approve. I don’t care about this, I didn't get a thank you. That's OK,"

Omg ,does he not have any advisors around that can inform him it is best not to use that kind of language?



Immersiveunreality said:
SpokenTruth said:

And on today's episode of Trump's Ego:

"I gave him [Senator John McCain] the kind of funeral that he wanted, which as president I had to approve. I don’t care about this, I didn't get a thank you. That's OK,"

Omg ,does he not have any advisors around that can inform him it is best not to use that kind of language?

Honestly difficult to say if everyone he keeps around him who could give him that advice is a sycophant and won't tell him he's wrong or he just doesn't listen to the people desperately trying to rein him in. Going to be a lot of really fun tell-all books that come out of this administration. 



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