Are we talking about actually-mature games, or M-for-mature games? Games which display real maturity exist in abundance on the Wii. M-for-mature games, not so much, but the sooner that fad dies out the better. M-for-mature gives gaming a bad name.

Truth be told? I don't give a rats ass if a game is mature or not. I only care if it's good. Whether it's rated E or M, I won't give it a second glance if I don't think it looks fun.

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I wonder if there will ever be a mature game that has a scenario like this

" You are a father of a family of 5, have always tried your hardest to raise your kids to be good people and love your wife very much. She dies in a tragic car accident bringing chaos on to your family. Devastated after your loss you turn to alcohol, eventually lose your job and your children abandon you/have been taken away by the authorities. Game objective: Get your life back"

I honestly wish there actually was something like this.

I plan on getting silent hill and i already have bully, manhunt 2 and madworld. I will buy mature games on Wii if they appeal to me and look as if actual effort has been put into them.

Some games really use it to their advantage, like God of War. If all the blood turned to fairy dust, the atmosphere of the game would be ruined.

Some games, like 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand, are just a mockery of everything an M-rated game is meant to be.

Though ESRB gets a little ridiculous and throws Ms at everything. Most 15s in the UK are M in NA.

Yes thank-you!!!  There are a lot of mature gamers on Wii.  And by mature, I'm talking lapsed gamers, PC gamers, people in their 30's and 40's (and even 50, 60's, and up), who don't have time or inclination to play single player, violent 'M' for Mature games (often because the Wii's in the living room and you can't play Madworld, NMH, HoTD:O or others in the living room when you have wives and kids).

'M' for Mature games are often not mature games at all.   They cater to the teenaged male who isn't even old enough to buy them (yet miraculously own tons).   Heck, yesterday I was at the video store and some guy was renting Halo 3 for his 4 year old.  Serious (actually he was going to rent him Halo Wars but I pointed out that wasn't a shooter).   I do not consider those mature games.

A game with mature content, like yanamaster suggests, would be most welcome.  I don't care if it's a point and click adventure, action adventure, RPG or whatnot, as long as the story content is something deep, engaging, actually relatable too and emotionally satisfying. This would also appeal to women, who happen to make up half of the Wii's userbase.   Something the gaming industry seems to forget with alarming regularity.

I am a teacher and father of a 5 year old son. We play Mario together and it's fun. He will never even see the casing of my M rated games. I only play at night, when he is asleep. As a teacher, I try to tell my students (12 year olds) of the fact that it's wrong to play those M rated games because of the violence and the fact that their is no way they can understand it all. I am not a violent guy, I don't think Shattered Memories or Cursed Mountain is violent. It's unsettling. I think you have to be mature enough to play games like Resident Evil. When my son is old enough, he can make is own decisions, for now, it's Mario Time baby.

And for mature gaming, I am anxious to see what Heavy Rain will bring to the video game industry.

I don't think age has anything to do with it. I've seen 30 year olds who aren't mentally stable enough to play a violent game, and then ten year olds who are. That's why I think the whole age rating system is flawed.

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