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brute on 10 January 2010

Hopefully I will like this, since it will be my first FF ever.



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ZenfoldorVGI on 10 January 2010

...see what I did there, in my last post.

The reason my above WKC example is so astute and all encompassing, is that most of the people on this website are huge fans of the PS3, lol. If someone is attacking an unreleased PS3 exclusive, then their opinion, to the majority of people on this forum(and thus reading this thread), is invalidated.

The truth is, the review was actually reasonably well written, and the analogies, though a bit silly, were well chosen. It is very likely that WKC probably is a mediocre title, and FFXIII is just "great" and not AAA.

However, that's not what I choose to believe. I am very excited for WKC, because I loved FFXII, and I think the innovation of taking a much deeper MMO engine and transitioning it to a console JRPG should be copied much more often. Not many gamers like it, but I love it.

Also, I've yet to be dissapointed in a Final Fantasy game. I like my games linear, and always have. When I get confused and worry about what to do next, it ceases being fun. Even on adventurous games like Zelda or Fallout, I follow a strictly regimented strategy guide to find and defeat my objectives. That is why gaming is fun, to me. It is certain, and it is regimented, and it is someone elses vision that I am enjoying.

Even if the game absolutely sucked, I wouldn't care, because I make my own fun, I always have. I think that's why I like playing videogames.

Either way, good thread. I'm proud to see so many stand up for their beliefs.



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zexen_lowe on 10 January 2010
Acevil said:
zexen_lowe said:
James Quentin Clark is ALWAYS harsh. An 85% by him means probably excellent, so I'd think this game would be. Just check all the import reviews from RPGFan, they're all lower than the domestic ones, it's his way of scoring.

Maybe thats the way to go, and nice to see you still post....haven't seen that in awhile. 

Sorry, I'm too busy polishing my banhammer to post.

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irstupid on 10 January 2010
reaver_x said:
darthdevidem01 said:

The Verdict

I've beaten all of the other Final Fantasy games save XI, and XIII is one of the better single playthroughs of the bunch. Its major flaw was obvious once the credits rolled: Aside from tooling around with a few more missions, I had no reason not to shelf the game indefinitely. Maybe that's not a new thing for Final Fantasy, given that the series isn't exactly renowned for its non-linearity or replayability. Still, it is likely to disappoint folks who bought a PS3 purely for FFXIII (assuming the XBox 360 port didn't already have them crying into their pillows at night) as it falls short of being the system-selling game that FFVII was for Playstation and FFX was for PS2.

A final, hopefully illustrative comparison: FFXIII is sort of like that really hot chick with the amazing body who may be fun to hang around but doesn't grow on you that much. Infinite Space, 2009's best original RPG by my count, is like the awkward girl with the thick glasses and bad skin. She's got a chip on her shoulder and you have to get over your initial impression, but once you do, you realize that she's the coolest and most interesting person you've ever met, and ultimately she becomes not just a potential conquest but a lifelong friend. I don't mind FPS games that fall into the former category, but for RPGs, well, call it a fetish, but I'll take the lovable crater-face every time.

In spite of packing the series' best battle system, in spite of Pixar-level graphics, in spite of an Oscar worthy soundtrack, FFXIII lacks depth. It's sad to have to say that about a game that is superlative in so many ways. Strip away all of the amazing visuals and music and you have a 7, 7.5 game that scrapes by on the virtues of its combat.

Still, FFXIII is a landmark game if only by virtue of its production. Square Enix has raised the bar not simply for JRPGs, but all seventh generation games to come. It's a must-own for series fans and a must-see for just about everyone else. Here's hoping for some meaty DLC or a stronger showing from Versus XIII.

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Their other scores for FF's (these are DOMESTIC reviews not import review likt he FF13 one):

FFVII -- 90%

FFVIII -- 95%

FFIX -- 92%

FFX -- 93%

FFX-2 -- 72%

FFXII -- 97%

This review WILL NOT GO ON metacritic as its an Import Review (see review & then go to section of PS3 import reviews....these don't go on metacritic)

Darth the US release will not be much different from the Japanese. This is not WKC where they add in a shit load of bonuses for the western audience. This will be the excat same game with english dubbed voices and different soundtrack. Look i no u dont wanna hear this but ur setting urself up for dissapointment if ur expecting 9.0-9.5 metacritic ratings at this point

yea exaclty and considering he seems to find the best parts of this game as being the sound and graphics, while the graphics won't change the sound is.  I don't know how many times i have heard bitching over how bad the dub and soundtrack is compared to the original.  so don't be surprised if the score even lowers.   but yea all i seem to find is a new article every day of people bitching about this game, mainly due to its linearness of it. 



--OkeyDokey-- on 10 January 2010
ZenfoldorVGI said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Still waiting for a AAA JRPG 4 years into the gen ;_;

Play Bowser's Inside story if you actually believe that. :P

Oh! I own that game, and you're right! :P



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perpride on 10 January 2010
fazz said:
perpride said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Still waiting for a AAA JRPG 4 years into the gen ;_;

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...........?

Lost Odyssey

Valkyria Chronicles

Tales of Vesperia

Demons Souls

A game can be AAA without metacritic saying so...they are not god....

I thought Metacritic was the official measure for telling which game is AAA and which one is not. Something like, anything over 90% there is AAA.

That's why NSMBWii isn't AAA.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Whoever told you Metacritic was the "official" anything lied. Metacritic is simply something to guide you in the right direction. Saying a game is AAA is an extremely subjective and opinnionated thing. A game is AAA based on the experience that YOU, the gamer have with it.

There are obvious exceptions. Let's say a game is so broken that it can't be beat. Or it is plagued by glitches to the point of death. Obviousley, this is not a AAA game no matter whose opinnion. But when we are talking about games like Demons Souls, NSMBWii, Lost Odyssey, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune or Fable II, the fact that they don't have 90 on metacritic means NOTHING. These are AAA games, in terms of playability, fun and production values. Someone may not like them because of personal tastes. But this doesn't make the games any less great.



outlawauron on 11 January 2010
--OkeyDokey-- said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Still waiting for a AAA JRPG 4 years into the gen ;_;

Play Bowser's Inside story if you actually believe that. :P

Oh! I own that game, and you're right! :P

Please, I hope you don't let reviewers tell you how awesome our RPGs are, as we have plenty fantastic ones already.



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Simulacrum on 11 January 2010

Well thats ok.



 

 

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RageBot on 11 January 2010
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Still waiting for a AAA JRPG 4 years into the gen ;_;

lol...

Are you serious?

You let the metacritic score of a game define your enjoyment of it?

Oh, and AAA doesn't stand for 90+ on metacritic, it stands for "AAA production values", which FF13 delivers in spades
(Just look at it this way, if 90-100 is AAA, than 80-90 is AA, than 70-80 is A, than 60-70 is... B? 50-60 is C? shouldn't it be F?)
"AAA" games should be defined either by production values, becoming an instant classic or by becoming a "late classic" like Starcraft.

And if you want a true "AAA JRPG experience", try some PS1 classics, you will enjoy them, if you care for stories, far more than any 90+ metacritic JRPGs of this gen.



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Pristine20 on 11 January 2010

why do people care so much for metacritic reviews? I loved FE:RD, it has a meta of 70%. Cant wait to play FFxiii whatever its reviw score may be. I can understand why they rated the gameplay 80%. All the people I've asked about the battle system (who've actually played the game) said its the best of any FF to date. Perhaps the linearity for 10 chapters got to them. FFX was just as linear but there were no qualms back then. I guess times have changed.



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