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So the fact that it sold 2 million WW already means it has lackluster sales?  Its only been a couple months since its come out and its already getting close to what uncharted sold.



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darthdevidem01 said:

1. Yes then I am crazy

I do not see uncharted 2 having legs like Uncharted 1 throughout the whole of next year, thats the crux of my argument, that is why I don't see it hitting 3 Million.

Uncharted 1 was a new IP & a hit

Uncharted 2 won't have legs like it after the holidays are over

@CGI

it sold 113K in November

it sold 227K according to VGChartz

I do not think OVER HALF of its sales came from outside North America...so yes its overtracked even after including mexico & Canada

Do you always just use whicheever data set meets your argument? Or do you have a history of always using NPD for your predictions?



I have to agree, that was my point darth, and people jumped on me and started assuming I was loosing it, having a break down, when games like UNCHARTED, which are jaw dropping good games, end up selling low numbers.. when they do have a casual appeal, and a core appeal.



 

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CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
Well yes for a GOTY it underperformed in the US, but I don't think he is aware of the European numbers.
It also will have nice legs.

How should it have performed? I never understand this "underperformed" talk. Underperformed compared to what?

Compared to expectations for a game who got 96% Meta, is in a mainstream genre, was hyped and is a sequel to a big seller & appraised new IP.



OLD DATA/ INTERVIEW PERHAPS?

as of today, from vgchartz:

0.10m 0.94m 0.93m 1.97m
Japan Americas Others Total

1 54,193 421,155 362,221 837,569
2 17,957 148,128 171,057 337,142
3 11,071 86,632 108,211 205,914
4 5,061 49,183 57,087 111,331
5 3,874 46,055 58,427 108,356
6 2,850 45,593 44,450 92,893
7 2,471 86,457 57,138 146,066
8 1,933 56,612 72,180 130,725



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steverhcp02 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
 

1. Yes then I am crazy

I do not see uncharted 2 having legs like Uncharted 1 throughout the whole of next year, thats the crux of my argument, that is why I don't see it hitting 3 Million.

Uncharted 1 was a new IP & a hit

Uncharted 2 won't have legs like it after the holidays are over

@CGI

it sold 113K in November

it sold 227K according to VGChartz

I do not think OVER HALF of its sales came from outside North America...so yes its overtracked even after including mexico & Canada

Do you always just use whicheever data set meets your argument? Or do you have a history of always using NPD for your predictions?

I use both sets of data

 

@pezus

yes why doesn't that make sense?

I predicted 2 - 2.5 Million, I believe it will top around 2.6 Million

I am closer than people who predicted 3 - 4 Million

as LTD sales are out no-one can be sure of who was closer yet

& I am not claiming VGChartz is wrong & NPD is right, but in the software department I would go with NPD



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darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
CGI-Quality said:
So darth, buddy , are you saying that you don't believe that Uncharted 2 is at 1.98mill right now?

nope & on good old VGChartz thats called "hating" uncharted 2

 

Alright, let give the game is overtracked.

imagine it is 1.7million

1. the game hasnt been heavily bundled yet like the first one

2. Still selling close or above 100k a week.

We still get 2 million this year.

3. I do believe a lot of people who saved their cash to get MWF2 will pickup it later on.

4. Showing better legs than Uncharted......

1. I do not count bundles in my prediction as I can't assume they will happen

2. duh

3. I believe people saved their cash to get MWF2 & will pick up Assassins Creed 2 later on....both statements are anecdotal

4. Ofcourse it is in the holiday weeks, but one we get past the new year things won't be so rosy & for now we can assume it won't be bundled

Finally tell me how am I hating on the game?

It's going to be hilarious when it pass the first one early next year. You have been wrong about this game yet you refuse to let go, and to further the cause, questioning VGCHARTZ numbers which is maybe just 89k difference.

 

 



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darthdevidem01 said:
steverhcp02 said:

Do you always just use whicheever data set meets your argument? Or do you have a history of always using NPD for your predictions?

I use both sets of data

 

@pezus

yes why doesn't that make sense?

I predicted 2 - 2.5 Million, I believe it will top around 2.6 Million

I am closer than people who predicted 3 - 4 Million

as LTD sales are out no-one can be sure of who was closer yet

& I am not claiming VGChartz is wrong & NPD is right, but in the software department I would go with NPD

wtf?



CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
Well yes for a GOTY it underperformed in the US, but I don't think he is aware of the European numbers.
It also will have nice legs.

How should it have performed? I never understand this "underperformed" talk. Underperformed compared to what?

Better. It's a shooter, one of the best reviewed games of all time, hyped..... just better.

 

When we look at NPD numbers, UC2 barely out performs Borderlands (360) in the US. Not that, what you would expect from a GOTY winner and sequel to a very good exclusive game.



CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
CGI-Quality said:
Barozi said:
Well yes for a GOTY it underperformed in the US, but I don't think he is aware of the European numbers.
It also will have nice legs.

How should it have performed? I never understand this "underperformed" talk. Underperformed compared to what?

Compared to expectations for a game who got 96% Meta, is in a mainstream genre, was hyped and is a sequel to a big seller & appraised new IP.

Explain those expectations, that matter. You mean Naughty Dog, who expected the game to reach 2.5mill and that's it? Yeah, those are the expectations that matter, not what any of us on a gaming forum think.

 

I expected Burn After Reading to make 300 million dollars WW...i mean, it was critically appraised, was in a mainstream comedy genre and was directed by The Cohen brothers who have made countless amazing films. It was a disappointment, just like Uncharted 2.