I just can't get over the fact that we have a thread about something Pachter said, with people using that as a springboard for their arguments, even after ioi has posted in the thread saying he has confidence in his numbers.

One for the record books?

Get over the fact you were way off on your prediction, which seems to be your whole reason for making the thread.

The numbers wont be adjusted anytime soon, ioi is happy with them.

It will be over 2m with the next update, and close to or over 2.5 by January.

*SIGH*

Ok, I'm here to put in my two cents... If we look a VGC data, we will see that the first 6 weeks of data have Uncharted 2 at 796746 copies sold in "Americas" not the USA (Where the FUCK did this 881k figure I'm reading about come from?)

When this article was written, they took into account NPD data up until November, which had Uncharted 2 at 650000 copies sold.

Now, using basic math...

796746 - 650000 = 146746 copies sold

Are you telling me... the rest of the Americas are incapable of making up 147k copies?

Assuming VGC has a 10% margin of error ... 146746*.10 = 14674.6

IMO Uncharted 2 can be over tracked by not much more than 15k copies... What the hell is the big deal about that? It's fairly clear the game will sell over 2mil copies before 2010, and from what we've seen, will have good legs into 2010, 3mil + possible.

They have a million worth of range, I'm doing what is statistically fair, one one hand they have double the chance of being close

They get an advantage, so on the other hand I get one, nothings free in this world

thank you for your wishes

most of all thank you for helping to take this thread past 100 posts, the UnReal Corporation thanks you!

I don't know what you did in Uncharted 2, but I shot bad guys in the majority of the time.

One of the things I found troubling regarding the Uncharted 2 talk, is how people were making it out to be a reason why the PS3 was selling better.  People here bought into the hype also, having Uncharted 2 being a reason for the increase in sales.  People expect it to be such, because it is a high quality title.  People then expect that means that people who don't own PS3s will buy a PS3 just to play it as a top reason.  I believe God of War 3 is likely in that category.  Some people also made Killzone 2 out to be such.  And now, there is lamenting that Uncharted 2 isn't doing Modern Warfare 2 level buzz saleswise (or even half of it, say Gears of War).

People are actually upset that Borderlands (FPS-RPG hybrid) is doing as well as it has?

I am curious what is wrong with Uncharted 2 doing 2-3 million in sales, getting a movie deal, and getting another game in the series?  Say it becomes a franchise title to own if you have a Playstation system (like Ratchet and Clank) even if it isn't a reason alone to go out and buy a Playstation system?  Isn't that good enough?

no thats not the reason I made this thread

re-read the thread & OP, then make accusations

And I wasn't as way off on my prediction as you will be on your PS3 & 360 weekly hardware gap prediction

you made that prediction in one of the worldwide sales up threads

ummm no, i dont think fairness is being able to change a prediction after 6 weeks of sales.

You said 2-2.5 they said 3-4 the range doesnt matter if youre ranges do not cross. There is no grey area, if it sells less than 2.5 million youre right, if it sells more than 3 million theyre right.

Your first post in the thread kinda gave away your intentions...

The difference is im not on some crusade to try make mine right. Im happy with the sales and im not disputing them...