That and he was pushing that trolling line by saying absolutes about the Wii remote vs control pad, if he pushed it much further he knew what would happen to him :P

personally, i laugh at reviews. because first, half of the ones that review the game aren't strong within that genre and might not like it like another person might. second, after i found out that publishers pay reviewers to review games, i then lost it after that kane and lynch incident. third, i buy games based on my own merits, whether i'm strong in the genre or it has got positive feedback and is playable. i will tackle the game without any hesitation. reviews are there for a source of entertainment to poke fun at a particular game. because half of the time they talk more negative than positive on a game in general.

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Seems you are the one needing to admit you're wrong.

1./ you forget your buddy's statement on precision and chose instead to focus on the one of better/worse controls

2./ none of these comments actually state that the wii version has better controls - none - a ton of them were provided but none is relevant.

And to all those who thought i ran away, remember the thing your parents do ? That's right : work...

I stated three points, which I maintain and I simply don't get how you haven't understood them already

1/ you should not bash journalists for having a different opinion than yours. One of you had a thoughtful comparison with book critics. It's exactly like that. Elle magazine might recommend chick-lit while the TLS will recommend Geert Mak's In Europe. Game Informer is simply not wii-oriented. It's not that they are biased they simply that their standards are "traditional". The TLS (king of book critics) dislikes almost all chick-lit, and it doesn't mean they are biased, its' simply not the same type product so the criterias they use are in disfavour of chick-lit de facto.

2/ the controls on a wii-mote cannot be as precise as those of a pad. It's an obvious fact and i am amazed that no one seems to understand that. The input from the wii-mote is affected by the orientation towards the tv, that of the receiver next to the tv, the lighting, the shaking of your arms, etc. While the pad is actually transmitting the movements of our most precise bodypart : fingers.

3/ here is the controversial point : "better controls". No reviewer stated better controls of a version over another simply because you cannot compare oranges and trees. The pad doesn't require you to move off from the sofa while the wii-mote requires some gesticulation especially if you're trying to simulate a golf swing. Some of them did recommend the wii version for its' controls (two on the list) but that's actually a parabole, a bold claim to be understood rather than believed. When you see a book title "501 must see movies" they actually do not expect you to watch each of them and even less that you would like each of them. Even with "the wii version's controls are so innovative and efficient they will make your xbox and ps3 owning friends dead jealous" the claim is to be understood and interpreted as :

"this is some of the best wii-mote controlling out there, some pad users might prefer using the wii-mote this time around, if they are wii-mote compatible to start with that is".

Well, that's all folks

Actually when they're all saying "the definitive one to get because of the controls" that means "this one controls better".

Not sure how up and up you are with definitions:

Precise: exact in measuring, recording, etc.: a precise instrument (like wii motion plus!)

Abstraction: the act of considering something as a general quality or characteristic, apart from concrete realities, specific objects, or actual instances. (I.E. pushing a round button to make a golf club swing)

Working with different definitions of precise, but oh well.

1) Yes, we should bash journalists, because they're not above criticism and in some cases beg for it. I mean we're not talking about Christopher Hitchens' Vanity Fair writings or Jeremy Scahill's investigative journalism, we're talking about some guy who plays video games and then shits out his opinion. Opinions are fine when they're based in reality, when they're not it's basically trolling and in this case crappy journalism. Something the video games industry is notorious for.

As for your last 2 points, you're intentionally distorting the overwhelming evidence and putting it in as obtuse as possible of an interpretation to support your bullshit claim. I'd go deeper but it's not really arguing at this point besides "NUH UH" "YEAH HUH" so you'll walk away goin "I showed them!" and the rest of the thread will walk away goin "Damn that guy got owned like a slave"

@Ghost4Life:  All of these explicitly state the Wii controls are better.  What the hell are you talking about?

"With the addition of MotionPlus, Woods 10 on the Wii is a fantastic golfing videogame, besting its console counterparts because of its control options, extra courses, party game modes, and Frolf."

"Given all the ways you can play it, as well as the superb MotionPlus controls, the Wii version of Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 is easily the best one. MotionPlus is a definite must-have in order to get the most out of the game, though."

".The Wii MotionPlus definitely makes the game. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 might not have been as good of a game without the added control sensitivity and accuracy, but now it has evolved to the point that I can't imagine another golf game without it."

"WiiMotionPlus brings unparalleled immersion to a game brimming with content, and this Wii title earns its place among the greats as the Tiger game golf fans have to own."

"Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 will be the reference for all the future games of the genre. Comparing it to other titles is impossible, due to the innovation and the possibilities implemented by the WiiMotion Plus. In addition there are a lot of options, the only downside being the graphics (good but no great). The WiiMotion Plus had convinced many critics, but now it appears absolutely essential."

"Tiger Woods 10 with the motion plus, control wise, is really a leap forward in the genre that every fan of this sport should try."

"While the PS3 and 360 versions have a substantial aesthetic edge, the Tiger 10 Wiilease is easily the most realistic of the three."

"With excellent controls, a good amount of modes and a great gameplay experience, this Wii version scores better than its competitors. It's the best golf sim to date."

"Wii MotionPlus delivers once more, turning the solid but flawed game into probably the best golf sim ever."

How can phrases like "besting its console counterparts because of its control options," "added control sensitivity and accuracy," "unparalled immersion," "a leap forward," and "the most realistic of the three" not show it's got better, more precise and immersive controls?

I know you're just grasping for straws at this point, but trying to ignore a wall of quotes is downright impossible.

how disgusting

How is this even legal lying like this, do their reviews have no quality control, do the higher ups not think something is wrong?

There are many "professionals" in my job field that are absolutely worthless when it comes to their job roles. Just because something is your profession, it doesn't mean you are good at it, don't hold the standard of "professional" too high or you'd be one of the suckers in life.

6.5 is above average I guess, but way below what this game deserves, an easy 8 IMO

Gh0st4lifE, please. You know very well that lots of them say explicitly that the controls are, in fact, better. I provided you with examples, I even bolded the important parts, but you're still blatantly ignoring them.

tarheel91 once again provided you with the text, but if you post in this thread again you'll just ignore that too. You've embarrassed yourself enough, just call it quits before you make yourself look even more ridiculous.

Oh really? Reference some of those reviews. The name of the game, the issue it was reviewed in, and the page it was on.

NP has gotten a lot better with their reviews of 3rd party games since 2005.