I think you may have said something in error, there is no way GT5 will do 10 million next year.  LTD wise it can maybe pass that total but not inside 9 months, its just not front loaded enough for that IMO.  In all honesty I've read a lot of Forza threads and not many balanced posters are saying it will outsell GT5 so I don't think there is much crow to be served at all anyway.

Halo Reach is going to get the the full treatment from the media event launch...so it would be a bad idea to bet against it launching big, imho.

I don't like Microsoft nor their business ethic; however, someone has to applaud them on a job well done this gen because they kept gaming alive until Sony got their act together as far as the hardcore are concerned. Just remember to keep that in mind in my logic as to why I sometimes I praise Microsoft and mostly refuse to praise Sony. I am not aligned with anyone, I just will applaud you if you did something right. Sony has barely done anything to win my attention. Their devs do the work for them anyway. I have  PS360 and its all about the games to me.

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as a jerk when saying that. But apart from the large UK fanbase GT has, one thing that carried GT was legs, and with a top gear test track, it's going to get strong publicity. Not only that, but in America, GT bundles were quite big as another poster said. I do think it has a chance at crossing the 10 million mark in maybe an even shorter period of time.

Hell, according to PD's website, GT5: Prologue is over 4 million units in software sales. If GT5:P can do that, I see no reason why GT5 shouldn't post much higher numbers, especially when you look at GT4:P sales compared to GT4.

We'll see either way. It's going to be bad for Sony if this series lost its steam. But I've faith in Yamauchi.

I don't know, he does have 1 good point, I mean do you expect 33% of PS3 owners to like racing games, and for them all to buy GT5? I think that's a pretty bold statement. And within 1 year?

Maybe if there were more PS3 owners, and no, I don't think GT5 will be a big system seller.

As for the OT, what's the big deal? Some PR is covertly critical of competition, and some of it is overt, but the tone and thought underneath could be the same either way. I actual prefer the jerk-ish honesty, at least he's not hiding behind nicer words, he's being upfront with how he feels (which is how he should feel).

Would you prefer he said "Yeah, GT5 might do okay, but nothing like Halo:Reach" and then, elsewhere (not on record of course) says "Nah, GT5 won't do shit, is it even a full game this time?" It's kind of like talking behind someone's back versus being upfront with that person. I can completely respect that, even if he's kind of a jerk for it.

As for me, I'm pretty pumped for Reach. Halo 1 was the console FPS that really got me into console FPS (before that, I only liked FPS on PC). Halo 16 player system link was also the most fun gaming experience I've ever had (though NSMBW is a VERY close #2), so I like the confidence in Halo, even if that's his job to be confident, even if overly so.

Edit: By the way, (looking at your sig) Diablo 3 is not coming out in 2010 =( I'm sad about it too.

I think GT5 can do 10 million LTD, just not in the first year as traditionally racers aren't front loaded no matter how great they are.  It will certainly outsell any other game on the system imo such is the strength of the brand.

I'm not a Greenberg fan, actually quite the opposite, but if he's gloating ONLY about NPD data and XB360 2nd place in USA, he has every right to do so, at the current sales rate there's nothing PS3 can do to become 2nd in USA by the end of this gen and there is nothing Wii can do to finish 2nd too.

@Red: The series' brand name is very strong, and GT5: Prologue proves this, when you look at GT4:P's sales compared to GT4.

If it's about userbase, then nearly every game on PS1 and PS2 must sell those numbers. But no. It sells for one reason. Brand power. It sells decently in Japan, Good in the US (strong when bundled), and is the Halo of Europe.

Of course, it probably won't do GT3 numbers. But GT4 is possible. GT3 launched one year after the PS2 launched. So I don't see why not.

@Blue: Disappointing, but if StarCraft II finally releases in 2010, I'll be just fine.

You could be right. Only time will tell, I suppose.

I think it's doable, but in 1 year? I guess anything's possible, the brand name is certainly strong enough. Adoption rate would have to be CRAZY high though, and I'm not so sure it'll spike up so much so early (within 1 year). The game will probably have decent legs to possibly sell 10 million in the long run though.

Offtopic- As for SC2, I don't know if I'm pumped anymore. I was pumped just by the thought of it back in the day (when SC was like the only game people played mostly). Right as my excitement died, they announced SC2 and I was pumped again. Then they talk of no lan, 3 seperate games (so $150 for everything, and I like single player as much as multiplayer for RTS), and rumors of P2P (subscription fees for bnet) REALLY turn me off. Really depends on how much is truth, and how much is just rumor. If there are subscription fees, then I'll probably wait until I can get the game as cheaply as possible, and only then if the fees are under 4 a month. Only time will tell.