Greenburg makes some bold comments about Reach, PS3, GT5, etc.

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r505Matt said:

huaxiong90 said:

slowmo said:

huaxiong90 said:

marc said:
What did you guys expect a MS pr guy to say?

As for GT, it will not sell as well as many might think for 2 reasons:

- Forza has provided competition. Forza is more a simulator and GT is more arcade style racing. Two distinct game styles that did not exist until late last generation. Now that there is a choice, some people will pick Forza and other GT but the point is that there are now choices. Note that GT4 sold 5mil less than GT3 while Forza 1 sold 4 mil. Interesting correlation.

- There are not nearly as many PS3 sold as PS2's.

I think it will sell well, and it will probably outsell Forza but I doubt it will hit the levels it had previously.

Incorrect.

 

I'm gonna just wait on GT5. If that game breaks 10 million next year, so much crow is going to be served.

I think you may have said something in error, there is no way GT5 will do 10 million next year.  LTD wise it can maybe pass that total but not inside 9 months, its just not front loaded enough for that IMO.  In all honesty I've read a lot of Forza threads and not many balanced posters are saying it will outsell GT5 so I don't think there is much crow to be served at all anyway.

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as a jerk when saying that. But apart from the large UK fanbase GT has, one thing that carried GT was legs, and with a top gear test track, it's going to get strong publicity. Not only that, but in America, GT bundles were quite big as another poster said. I do think it has a chance at crossing the 10 million mark in maybe an even shorter period of time.

 

Hell, according to PD's website, GT5: Prologue is over 4 million units in software sales. If GT5:P can do that, I see no reason why GT5 shouldn't post much higher numbers, especially when you look at GT4:P sales compared to GT4.

 

We'll see either way. It's going to be bad for Sony if this series lost its steam. But I've faith in Yamauchi.

I don't know, he does have 1 good point, I mean do you expect 33% of PS3 owners to like racing games, and for them all to buy GT5? I think that's a pretty bold statement. And within 1 year?

Maybe if there were more PS3 owners, and no, I don't think GT5 will be a big system seller.

As for the OT, what's the big deal? Some PR is covertly critical of competition, and some of it is overt, but the tone and thought underneath could be the same either way. I actual prefer the jerk-ish honesty, at least he's not hiding behind nicer words, he's being upfront with how he feels (which is how he should feel).

Would you prefer he said "Yeah, GT5 might do okay, but nothing like Halo:Reach" and then, elsewhere (not on record of course) says "Nah, GT5 won't do shit, is it even a full game this time?" It's kind of like talking behind someone's back versus being upfront with that person. I can completely respect that, even if he's kind of a jerk for it.

As for me, I'm pretty pumped for Reach. Halo 1 was the console FPS that really got me into console FPS (before that, I only liked FPS on PC). Halo 16 player system link was also the most fun gaming experience I've ever had (though NSMBW is a VERY close #2), so I like the confidence in Halo, even if that's his job to be confident, even if overly so.

Edit: By the way, (looking at your sig) Diablo 3 is not coming out in 2010 =( I'm sad about it too.

@Red: The series' brand name is very strong, and GT5: Prologue proves this, when you look at GT4:P's sales compared to GT4.

 

If it's about userbase, then nearly every game on PS1 and PS2 must sell those numbers. But no. It sells for one reason. Brand power. It sells decently in Japan, Good in the US (strong when bundled), and is the Halo of Europe.

 

Of course, it probably won't do GT3 numbers. But GT4 is possible. GT3 launched one year after the PS2 launched. So I don't see why not.

 

@Blue: Disappointing, but if StarCraft II finally releases in 2010, I'll be just fine.