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@Kazadom, yes if you had say an intelmac from the first say year of production it depending on what model it was you would get appleworks, but now you cannot, you can not even buy it from apple separately anymore. the very last macs to have it were the edu imac intel variant (the one that was dirt cheap as imacs go) not avalible to normal consumers. it was a sad day when it left...

the only reason i hat the one buton mice is they hurt my hands out side of that, key commands, they cover for missing buttons

well except in select software, FCP and most Adobe software



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kazadoom said:
epsilon72 said:
OS X is nice (I use some G5's between classes at school when I have extra time), and as a primary (but non-gaming) OS it is most definitely better than windows. I like the fact that it's unix based; that aspect of the environment is semi-familiar to me. In my opinion though the mac hardware is very overpriced. It may look nice on the outside, but I'm not going to pay that much for it.
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The reason that they cost so much is 2 fold. 1 - there is no competition, Apple makes Macs period, you can get a PC from a million different places. 2 - and this is the one that I like the most. Every Mac is proprietary. You will never get junk, they are all built with the best hardware, and they all have the same hardware in them. Apple simply will not put crap in their computers. When buying a PC, you never know what kind of crap is in there, unless you build it yourself. I guess I could throw in a number 3 - the genius bar. No matter how long you have had your Mac, you can take it to any Apple store and they will take a thorough look at it and tell you what needs to be done to fix it if there is a problem for free. When you buy a Mac, you are paying for the best hardware so of course it will cost you. You get what you pay for.

Macs are really reliable from what I've seen.  I would never buy a PC from retail because they do come with bottom of the barrel parts.  When you build your own PC though, you can get parts of comparable quality to mac parts for less.

 



iv got a Macbook, its easier to use than any windows system (for me anyway) and it has the best programmes for animation/movie making



goddog said:

@joora terminal is for digging deep into a OSX to change it, i like my dock just as floting icons nothing else, and why not use a two button mouse, i too loath the might mouse, I prefer logitech mice.

@madskillz do you have and B&W g3s ive been looking to buy an old one


Hay Goddog. I have the all-in-one iMacs in a lot of sweet flavors. I have a few - where do you live? Shoot ... one guy - the same guy I bought these from - has 10 of them he's selling for $100. They are just missing OS's ...

 



I switched to Mac before I came to college b/c I was getting tired of how unreliable my PCs were and I don't think I will ever go back. The Apple OSx is so much easier to use and even more fun to use. I just adore widgets and all little F9 to F12 functions, too. I have had a few issues with my mac locking up as bit, but that really had to do w/ my friends having an annoying good time of using the remote as I was doing my work and me trying to get to the systems preference to turn it off...bastards



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IllegalPaladin said:
Also, does anybody else totally hate the Mac mice? There are two kinds of Mac mice for the Macs on campus. There is the older one button mouse and the (I think it's) 4 button mouse with a right/left click, middle roller, and a button on the side of the mouse.

Obviously, the one with more buttons is 10x better than the one button mouse, but even with it's helpful scroll ball, I dislike the one button look because I find myself hitting the wrong button because I don't know exactly where to press down with my fingers.

lol, I've actually been content with bringing an extra Logitech mouse to campus and using that instead.


I usually feel one of two emotions while using Mighty Mouse... This sucks and This REALLY sucks. When the mouse is working properly, I like the trackball for design because it allows you to scroll every direction easily. The problem is that the trackball gets clogged after a month of use. I'm on my third one and the trackball stopped working on that months ago. It's junk.

But Apple's trackpads on their laptops simply aren't rivaled by anyone else making computers. The scrolling system and right click function is slick as hell and works flawlessly.



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I use Ubuntu, Macs, and Windows each fairly frequently.

Today I find myself recommending Ubuntu for the majority of people who just surf the Web, IM and do basic photoshop stuff. GIMP is a free tool that does 80% of the stuff photoshop does and almost all of the stuff consumer photogphers will do. Updating Ubuntu is a breeze and it is free and stable and has less malware than a Mac or Windows. It can alos run on any hardware though you need Ubuntu 6.06 for powerPC processors. they also aren't full of themselves yet. Though I recommend Red Hat for anyone doing 3d work like CAD.

Windows Vista 64 runs like a runs like a rock on everything I put it on so far. It is still slower than XP but is more stable with less stuttering and supports 16GBs of Ram(though 32bit programs can only access 4 GBs of it). It should be important to note that I pay more money to build a PC than I would if I bought the stuff retail. the ability to tinker with settings to make the computer perform better is a definite plus.

Mac OSX is my least favorite. I recomend Macs for people who want an all in one unit. For people who want to do simple video editing from a handycam through Ilife and of course for people who want to do soundwork but only because they bought Emagic not because the HW is better for sound(it was better back when they used SCSI interface).
There are somethings I like about it though. I do like the fact that it is UNIX based and that with X11 you can run Linux apps on it...including WINE. I like the fact that it supports more than 4gigs of RAM if you have a Mac Pro. I do not like the fact that it is the slowest OS(though I have read that leopard is as fast as vista now but I haven't tested leopard yet so I can not say until I do later this week) (leopard should actually run faster than tiger since it doesn't support G3s I have noticed that the hackintoshes that have had Rosetta stripped down run much faster than regular Macs at the price of program compatibility of course) when running applications or the amount it will stutter with the color wheel. I am not a fan of the design with menus always on the top and I do not like the dock which is bulky and either takes up visual space or can interfere if you have anything near the bottom. I don't like how the ads tell consumers that it is malware free...I consider that to be foolish and contributes to people using their macs in foolish ways like the new trojan that disguises itself as a codec and people actually install since they think Macs can't have viruses or malware. I alos don't like how macs try to force you to use their programs I keep on having to change Quicktime from default Player. I don't like the companies attitude as well since pretty much everything in OSX has been copied or they way they handle third party programs on their systems.

As for HW there was a model of the Acer 5570 I think it was -2076 that had the same motherboard, graphics card and most fo the internals minus of course Airport , The actual case, and the Bios as a Macbook. It also retailed with a slower CPU 1.6 Ghz. The fact of the matter is Apple does not manufacture their computers nor do they design them a company called Frog does that. You can build much better than a Mac for Cheaper when you start getting into the mac pro range. For 3D modeling which si something I don't do I still scratch my head why people use macs. I mean the OS doesn't even support all teh quadro extensions and is limited to a Quadro 4500 when the 5600 has been out for over a year. CAD2 sells faster computers than the Mac Pro but yes they are ugly as hell.

As for FCP, Premiere, Avid.. I still think Avid is the best for everything bar none BUT it is also the most expensive and for many not worth the cost. FCP is still better than Premeire for color correction IMO and I find myself using it for that purpose(I kinda like the color correction on FCP a little better than Avid) but Premiere has really cut up CS3 can do pretty much anything that FCP or Avid does I just wish adobe would support 64 bit math and maybe clean the UI a little more however with After Effects combo it is a real effective tool.



NightStalker said:
I switched to Mac before I came to college b/c I was getting tired of how unreliable my PCs were and I don't think I will ever go back. The Apple OSx is so much easier to use and even more fun to use. I just adore widgets and all little F9 to F12 functions, too. I have had a few issues with my mac locking up as bit, but that really had to do w/ my friends having an annoying good time of using the remote as I was doing my work and me trying to get to the systems preference to turn it off...bastards

 Yeah this is the same reason why I bought a mac when I entered college I bought a mac cuz i didn't want to deal with all that hassel windows puts me through. I see know reason to go back to a Windows my only problem is that i have an ibook and and now those don't exist i bought the ibook a few months before the macbooks came out so dumb...... i wish i knew about an upgrade like that before i bought it........  However there's a website that tells you that now but i forgot what it is doesn't anyone here know what it is




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my sis has a mac. Macs are awesome it just that pc dominates the world. macs are not as mainstream as pc yet



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