2D > 3D
Back in the days of the NES/SNES, how many more gamers (including casuals) were there then there are now?
2D > 3D
Back in the days of the NES/SNES, how many more gamers (including casuals) were there then there are now?
Look, I wasnt expecting my opinion to be popular. But it is my opinion.
@Khuutra
Is my information wrong or something?
I couldn't agree more, a nice balance between the two would be great.
There is however an element in the gaming community that still seems to see less value in 2D games than 3D.
The position that every game would be better in 3D is indefensible. If you are talking in the theoretical speculative sense, then maybe, otherwise reality disagrees with you.
hsrob said: I couldn't agree more, a nice balance between the two would be great. There is however an element in the gaming community that still seems to see less value in 2D games than 3D. The position that every game would be better in 3D is indefensible. If you are talking in the theoretical speculative sense, then maybe, otherwise reality disagrees with you. |
If its that persons opinion thats all that matters, its not like there are facts to back up that 2D gaming is superior to 3D gaming in anyway and vice versa, its all a matter of opinion. So reality disagrees with you
Vote for yes, some games don't need to be 3d. I've had some ideas that I could never adjust to 3d play style.
Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.
Vetteman94 said:
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That is what defines a game as 2D. You can only move in two directions. The gameplay in LBP is much closer to Super Mario Bros. than Super Mario Galaxy, because a third dimension of movement greatly changes both the gameplay possibilities (by creating new ones and limiting others), and by the way you interact with the game (controlling a character in 3D is much different than controlling one in 2D). LBP is a 2D game whether you want to admit it or not. 2D vs. 3D is determined by gameplay, not by whether the characters are created with lines or polygons.
Theres nothing like playing a good old 2d game.
Isometric 2d RPG's and 2d platformers are the bomb!
Vetteman94 said:
I started gaming on an Atari 2600. So what does that have to do with anything? He was saying that NSMB Wii was like LBP in being 2.5D which was only given to LBP because of its limited movement in the 3rd dimension. But everything else is in 3D, which is what I would classify as a 3D game. So While the movement is limited to only 2 directions I still believe LBP is a 3D game. And if that is the same way that NSMB Wii is then fantastic. |
Look, 2.5D is a term created to define games that have 3D graphics but 2D gameplay. So LBP is 2.5D by definition, it doesn't matter if you'd classify it as 3D or whatever.
And since Miyamoto used NSMB Wii, a 2.5D game like LBP, as an exemple of 2D game, it's clear he was talking about the gameplay, not the graphics. So, in the context of this trhead and his quotes, LBP is, in fact, a 2D game.
Also, on another reply, you said you couldn't see NSMB Wii as being more fun than Galaxy, even though you just said earlier you had no knowlodge of the game. It seems like you're just being stubborn and supposing you're right even if you have no clear reason to believe so.
Vetteman94 said:
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What do you mean? You're too vauge. We can't trust an opinion that is stated in wishy washy terms.
What specifically do you mean by them being in 3D, and how would they be improved.
A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.
Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs
Vetteman94 said:
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So if it's as narrow as YOU think all games are/would be better in 3D I have to ask, do you prefer every single 3D iteration of every series more than it's 2D predecessor? Which ones have you played?
People use Mario as an example to say that platformers work in 3D but Mario's gameplay mechanics changed fundamentally in the transition to 3D. And to clarify something that was mentioned earlier, games like NSMBWii, while having 3D graphics have 2D play mechanics. I do not believe a fast paced, point to point platformer would gain anything from moving into the third dimension other than making the game significantly harder and less playable.