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Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:
@carl....

if that happens I expect an adjustment next year.... it makes no sense for the 360 not to get a boost in the US.

so i'll be right eventually.

but by the way.... I was talking holidays... not november.... just so you know.

I doubt there will be any major adjustment, 360 had the $100 gift card thing last week and MW2 this week. Nothing next week that could warrant a boost.

MW2 boosted it this week. So the Holiday boost (which is starting already) should nulify the MW2 boost dropoff, whereas it would have been much lower this week if MW2 hadn't launched.

But... We will see

We'll have to wait for next year and look at all the sales since November to see if Walmart offer + MW2 partially ate otherwise successive Xmas sales (didn't it happen with Halo 3 release?).

@Netyaroze: despite the low share for a market leader, Wii has the highest sales ever for a leader in its first 3 years. Even staying under its best sales YoY, it will beat PSOne easily and PS2 with a little more effort, but not so difficult anyway, during its lifespan. Wii games offer is again getting more complete and atttractive at a good pace, this, added to the new lower price, will work quite well against further sales drops for a while, >80million by 2010 end is a reasonable minimum goal.



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Netyaroze said:
mightyERone said:
Netyaroze said:
mightyERone said:

WOW!!  Even with your price cuts, CODMW2 and Uncharted 2 the Wii still outsold the HD twins...  I dont know how Nintendo dose it...  WOW!!!

 

 

LOL try it again:

 

WII 559k

PS3+Xbox360 621k

 

Difference is 62K in favor for the HD Consoles. After this Christmas Wii probably be way down in the percentage.

Yep, the big differenc is Wii/DS sales >  Everything else combined by 125k. Again with no big MW2 or Uncharteds.  WOW!!!!!!

 

 

You didnt said WII/DS outsold HD TWins you said WII outsold it.  The had much much better times. Its still down YOY like the DS and its BAD for the WII if it gets outsold through the HD Consoles. If you wow at this even if its bad performance for the WII compared to the past. And if you wow every time Wii and DS outsold the HD Twins you can WOW all the time.

 

 

If I say WOW then to comment an achievment which is rare. For the WII this week is disappointing. Ofcourse it has great sales but still down compared to last year. And Wii to not outsell the HD Consoles is disappointing to. Not for me but a lot of people said WII 50% for sure. ANd this is looking very unlikely.

 

Fact is that Wii is the weakest leader of all times. It didnt even manage to unite 50% of the market and if the Xbox360 will be strong this Christmas the Wii could loose 1-2% marketshare over the Holidays. If you are honest the Wii is not in such a good position. Marketleader have usually more lot more then 50%. PS2 = 73% PS1 = 71% SNES= 61% NES= 82% Wii=48.6% and falling. I cant see big reasons to celebrate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe you dont understad.  I WOW the Wii sales cause even YOY its still outselling the HD systems with none of the BIG AAA Exclusives.  And this Gen for some reason it turned 2 HD vs. 1 Wii.  Wii still wins (outsales) = WOW!!!



Not sure if it's going to be a factor or was just specific to my Best Buy but I noticed something that bugged me yesterday when I purchased my SLIM PS3 ( YLOD on old PS3 /cry).
They had huge piles of Wii and 360 but the PS3 Pyramid they had back when the SLIM was released was gone and they only had 6-7 PS3 on display.

Hopefully they were just waiting for a shipment because I would hate to see them run out of PS3 ( when you think of it Sony started production of the SLIM last summer and it has been selling pretty well since its release).



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Really pleased to see PS3 pull away from the 360 despite gift card/MW bundle combo!



Stab in the dark IMO, because of the increase of the deals for the 360, I expect the 360 to reduce to around 260k next week whereas I expect the PS3 to increase to around 390k.

In short I expect there to be anywhere from 100k-130k of a difference worldwide.



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Using the PS2 as the yardstick, it still went up 11% with nothing really going on. Xbox 360 went up 12% with the xbox live bans and MW2 so really the Walmart promotion figures in from previous week as in the OP. PS3 went up to 15% so something is taking hold, either MW2 or Bluray adoption. Wii is up even higher which I can't really explain. I thought they'd hit market saturation sooner rather than later. PSP (shakes head in disgusts)



ZorroX said:
ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:
hmmm.

This huge ps3 > 360 gap predicted by many isnt materialising.... I'm thinking fairly even outside Japan this holidays. could be wrong.

Next week the gap will be increasing to about 100k again.

My preliminary prediction:

360: 280k
PS3: 380k

GAP: +100k PS3

360 has no MW2 bundle and no Walmart gift next week.

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uber said:

sony needs to jump on the offensive and do something to put MS away for the year. the black friday sales i'm hearing about are great, but i think they really need to respond with a week long promotion to take away MS's momentum.

LoL, what momentum? It ended by itself, since that was only 1 week deal for 99$. And MW2 bundles, well, all hardcore MW2 fans would buy it on first week. There is NO momentum on x360, just one week(technically 2, since 99$ one week deal started on Saturday) spike.

I demand a one week ban for everyone saying it was $99. You had to pay $199 (!!!) and got a $100 giftcard. You can basically say it was bundled with two games. When the PS3 was $399 it was bundled with Resistance 2 and Fifa 09 (the latest at that time) in some shops. So nobody said it was already $279 back then.



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DirtyP2002 said:
ZorroX said:
ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:
hmmm.

This huge ps3 > 360 gap predicted by many isnt materialising.... I'm thinking fairly even outside Japan this holidays. could be wrong.

Next week the gap will be increasing to about 100k again.

My preliminary prediction:

360: 280k
PS3: 380k

GAP: +100k PS3

360 has no MW2 bundle and no Walmart gift next week.

True.

uber said:

sony needs to jump on the offensive and do something to put MS away for the year. the black friday sales i'm hearing about are great, but i think they really need to respond with a week long promotion to take away MS's momentum.

LoL, what momentum? It ended by itself, since that was only 1 week deal for 99$. And MW2 bundles, well, all hardcore MW2 fans would buy it on first week. There is NO momentum on x360, just one week(technically 2, since 99$ one week deal started on Saturday) spike.

I demand a one week ban for everyone saying it was $99. You had to pay $199 (!!!) and got a $100 giftcard. You can basically say it was bundled with two games. When the PS3 was $399 it was bundled with Resistance 2 and Fifa 09 (the latest at that time) in some shops. So nobody said it was already $279 back then.

You had to use that $100 on XBox related items? I ask this because I am sure many, if not everyone in this thread could easily find something else to spend the $100 on. Like food, christmas shopping, toilet paper, candles, etc...

So while it wasn't exactly a $99 XBox360 and/or pricecut, for someone like me it would be a $99 360 because I have plenty of things I would have spent the extra $100 on, like clothing, food, etc... for my daughter. So in the end, yes, for me it would have been a $99 360 Arcade.

Am I wrong?



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kowenicki said:
hmmm.

This huge ps3 > 360 gap predicted by many isnt materialising.... I'm thinking fairly even outside Japan this holidays. could be wrong.

ioi's article CLEARLY states

next week 360 sales should remain flat as:

A. Walmart Deal is over in USA + bundles for MW2 are

B. bundles are over in Europe too

On the other hand PS3 won't be flat but will RISE again 15 - 20%

Expect a  HUGe gap again next week

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Darths Angle:

PS3 -- JUST AMAZING sales for this beast, JUST AMAZING......I'm shocked it outsold 360 this week

360 -- Ok sales.....it only 4% down YOY but thats taking into account the walmart deal & MW2 bundles....so is it really that great, not it isn't, on the other hand sales are WAY above PS3's dismal 2008 holiday....hence "ok" sales

PSP -- Bad.....saw the LOWEST increase week over week & is down over 20% YOY......nuff said

DS -- Decent........well they are GODLY....but being down over 30% YOY isn't "amazing", the DS LL launch WILL propel it higher though

Wii -- GOOD Sales.....still down YOY.....maybe NSMB Wii next week will change this



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