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famousringo said:
bazmeistergen said:
KungKras said:
Lol yea. That's why Modern Warfare, Reflex is unplayable on the Wii. I just can't hit those low poly enemies, and the graphics are affecting the multiplayer too, so much lag now when the game is in 480p. xD


Funny, I have no trouble hitting players online or enemies in the single player. I have a 42inch TV using component in 480p.

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bardicverse said:
@Mike - I agree with what you're saying, but I think that HDTVs are starting to become reasonable. This upcoming Black Friday, 32 inch HDTVs can be bought for under $300. Thats really cheap. I think the pricepoint is starting to match what people are willing to pay to switch out their SD tvs to HD.

My folks finally upgraded to a 32 inch LCD as their main TV, taking advantage of recent lower prices. Unfortunately the 300 dollars you quote for America is more like $650 in Australia.  My point though is that if MY parents considered upgrading to a HDTV then everybody else in the world can't be too far behind. 

OT: Having said all that the Wii doesn't need a HD visual upgrade any more than it did three years ago.  It is the most popular system, the industry standard for games which means (for normal non gamers) it's a case of the PS3 and 360 just looking very good compared to the Wii, not the Wii looking really bad compared to them.  Furthermore if Wii games really do look crap on your, not just crap relative to 1080p Gran Turismo, then your TV sucks at upscaling 480p, or it's just massive.  I've seen the Wii on a number of HD panels and believe me when i tell you that when it comes to a humble 480p signal, not all HDTVs are created equal.



Even a simple game like William's Pinball Collection looks a lot more clear on HD which I bought for the wii first. Even average looking graphic PC games has benefited for years with higher resolution. I agree the higher the resolution the more details you can see in the distance. Not only does the Wii runs only 480p but also  has a total of 88mb of ram compared to HD consoles 512mb. I'm sure it take developers a lot of work to take a 512mb game and crunch it down to 88mb.



Demotruk said:
bardicverse said:
@Mike - I agree with what you're saying, but I think that HDTVs are starting to become reasonable. This upcoming Black Friday, 32 inch HDTVs can be bought for under $300. Thats really cheap. I think the pricepoint is starting to match what people are willing to pay to switch out their SD tvs to HD.

Even if more people are buying HDTV's, that doesn't necessarily mean people are playing games (or even watching shows) in high definition. A large amount of people think they are watching HD by virtue of the fact that they have a HDTV, when it's not as simple as that.

 

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/definition-transition-editorial

Demo, thats true for the cable services etc.. but with gaming, if they have a HD gaming system on a hdtv, unless theyre not hooking up via hdmi cable, then generally they are gaming in hd.



hsrob said:
bardicverse said:
@Mike - I agree with what you're saying, but I think that HDTVs are starting to become reasonable. This upcoming Black Friday, 32 inch HDTVs can be bought for under $300. Thats really cheap. I think the pricepoint is starting to match what people are willing to pay to switch out their SD tvs to HD.

My folks finally upgraded to a 32 inch LCD as their main TV, taking advantage of recent lower prices. Unfortunately the 300 dollars you quote for America is more like $650 in Australia.  My point though is that if MY parents considered upgrading to a HDTV then everybody else in the world can't be too far behind. 

OT: Having said all that the Wii doesn't need a HD visual upgrade any more than it did three years ago.  It is the most popular system, the industry standard for games which means (for normal non gamers) it's a case of the PS3 and 360 just looking very good compared to the Wii, not the Wii looking really bad compared to them.  Furthermore if Wii games really do look crap on your, not just crap relative to 1080p Gran Turismo, then your TV sucks at upscaling 480p, or it's just massive.  I've seen the Wii on a number of HD panels and believe me when i tell you that when it comes to a humble 480p signal, not all HDTVs are created equal.

It is true that people the switch to HD is going on.  But it is still not in the majority.

The main point though is that at the point of system release three years ago, HD was no where near the dominant force or choice -- which is why the Wii did not go for HD at the time.


Mike from Morgantown



      


I am Mario.


I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

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mike_intellivision said:

It is true that people the switch to HD is going on.  But it is still not in the majority.

The main point though is that at the point of system release three years ago, HD was no where near the dominant force or choice -- which is why the Wii did not go for HD at the time.


Mike from Morgantown

The majoirty doesn't play video games as a hobby either. Gamers who spend a lot of money  buying games like MGS4, MW2, AC2,etc. will more likely own or planning to own a HDTV in the near future. HDTV also has an advantage of the ability hooking up your PC  to watch TV programs on Hulu, DL movies, etc.



Smidlee said:
mike_intellivision said:
 

It is true that people the switch to HD is going on.  But it is still not in the majority.

The main point though is that at the point of system release three years ago, HD was no where near the dominant force or choice -- which is why the Wii did not go for HD at the time.


Mike from Morgantown

The majoirty doesn't play video games as a hobby either. Gamers who spend a lot of money  buying games like MGS4, MW2, AC2,etc. will more likely own or planning to own a HDTV in the near future. HDTV also has an advantage of the ability hooking up your PC  to watch TV programs on Hulu, DL movies, etc.

Agreed. But again, think of the market when the PS3 and Wii were released three years ago. Not a lot of people had HD TVs.

And while the PS3 aimed at those people, the Wii aimed at everyone -- and thus went SD.

 

Mike from Morgantown



      


I am Mario.


I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

Wii Friend Code: 1624 6601 1126 1492

NNID: Mike_INTV

Let be honest, $600 was way too much to pay for a console even for a  gamer like me, This was PS3 biggest downfall.



Garnett said:

The Wii doesn't need HD resoultion, it needs non-lazy developers to dev for it.

 

Look at the Condult, an Excellent looking game.

IF COMPARED TO THE PS2 OR ORIGINAL XBOX.  Do you think The Conduit holds up to any PS3 or 360 top of the line FPS, outside of maybe Halo?



When you factor in the sales of the Wii, DS, PSP, iPod Touch/iPhone, and PS2 why would anyone think that a console needs a feature like HD visuals? If pushing the limits of HD visuals was so important why are there so few games that push the limits of multi-gpu bleeding edge PCs?

Now, I can understand the desire to have more advanced graphics and Nintendo has promised to deliver that with their next console but (being that it seems so low on consumer priorities) why should Nintendo rush to "Fix" a "Problem" that doesn't seem to be a problem at all?