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makingmusic476 said:
dib8rman said:
Making music, well MkWii isn't lagless, it's just not rendering a lot most of the times, you don't need to know the details of things out of sight, this game constantly has 4 players and objects on screen, there's a higher level of precision needed than in MK for sure.

That's partially what I picked up with multiplayer, it's crazy as is, but I get frustrated at brawl enough to know that if I need to make a specific jump in mario I don't need to screen to skip even for a fraction of a second.

I suppose a simple 2D game like this is rendering more, right?

And don't forget that in MKWii you could easily have all 12 players on screen at once, depending on the position of everybody on the track.  And they are all complex 3D models, not mere 2D sprites.

As for Super Smash Bros., the online in that game is downright bad, and doesn't come close to the better efforts we've seen on the Wii, like Mario Kart.  I can't recall a single smooth match I've played in the game.

NSMBWii does not use 2D sprites.

It looks like dib8rman covered MKWii.



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They didn't take that many points off.
And it is touted as being a multiplayer game.

I'm not taking points off for not having online. I think there are plenty of games that do well enough without online (MGS4 probably should take a penalty for it's online lol).
It's just MP and online are like best friends. A solid MP game should have both local and online, or be docked some percentage.

You guys make a very good argument that it simply could not be done, but a lot of games have lag and people deal with it.


Although, in my world, games are rated based on what is available on the specific system. In this case, NSMBW would be somewhat higher than the score that it got. It's just that it's being compared to all other games out there, not against it's own ceiling.



ClaudeLv250 said:
theprof00 said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
NINTENDO WERE IS TEH ONLINE? BAAAAWWWWWWWWWW

*Nintendo adds online*

WTF WHY R THER FRENDCODES GET THIS SHT OUT OF HEREE

*Nintendo removes friend codes*

OMG WERE IS TEH DLC? IF I CANT DOWNLOWD HALFOF TEH GAME IN DLC THEN WAT IS THE PIONT NITNENDO????//

*Nintendo removes online*

NINTENDO WERE IS TEH ONLINE? BAAAAWWWWWWWWWW

the dlc part is just completely illogical, IRL people wouldn't clamor for DLC and Nintendo wouldn't take away the online.

IRL the service is supposed to get better and better, but you apparently think that fans are the reason that nintendo is doing this? Apparently the fans control Nintendo, right? Which is why everyone is completely satisfied with the Wii right now.

It boggles my mind that with so much money coming in, they can be making so many mistakes. But then again, with such a rabid fanbase, why put more money into the system when people will accept and defend cost cutting measures?

 

 

This reply makes no sense. It is based illogic and a lack of reading comprehension (or selective reading).

No one said anything about the fans "controlling" Nintendo. Nice strawman, now watch your argument blow away in the wind.

Moaning about "cost cutting" assumes that the game was online based from the start and that Nintendo cut the feature to save money. This is factually incorrect. The game simply doesn't have online because it wasn't designed for it. If Nintendo wanted it to be online, it would have been. They've done it in SSB, Mario Kart, hell even Excitebike for Wiiware has it. This is not a developmen or a money issue because they have no qualms making their games online. So this was clearly a design choice.

This is why all the bitching is moronic. Now wanting online play isn't wrong at all. Throwing a tantrum on the internet is. We've known it wasn't online for months. I assumed people would have gotten over this once the game came out but IGN's silly review proves otherwise. I don't really think people are so dense but to scream about something that actually isn't that important in the long wrong. Going off of Craig Harris' words, this looks like another fanboy crusade but using no online in NSMBW as a platform.

 

I'm having a very decent debate with everyone else in this thread, but I cannot take this post seriously.

EDIT: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be aggressive. I know you don't mean to call me a fanboy or throwing a tantrum, but that you are making a point about some of the other posters in this thread. Suffice to say this is just yet another Nintendo game that isn't for me.



theprof00 said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
theprof00 said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
NINTENDO WERE IS TEH ONLINE? BAAAAWWWWWWWWWW

*Nintendo adds online*

WTF WHY R THER FRENDCODES GET THIS SHT OUT OF HEREE

*Nintendo removes friend codes*

OMG WERE IS TEH DLC? IF I CANT DOWNLOWD HALFOF TEH GAME IN DLC THEN WAT IS THE PIONT NITNENDO????//

*Nintendo removes online*

NINTENDO WERE IS TEH ONLINE? BAAAAWWWWWWWWWW

the dlc part is just completely illogical, IRL people wouldn't clamor for DLC and Nintendo wouldn't take away the online.

IRL the service is supposed to get better and better, but you apparently think that fans are the reason that nintendo is doing this? Apparently the fans control Nintendo, right? Which is why everyone is completely satisfied with the Wii right now.

It boggles my mind that with so much money coming in, they can be making so many mistakes. But then again, with such a rabid fanbase, why put more money into the system when people will accept and defend cost cutting measures?

 

 

This reply makes no sense. It is based illogic and a lack of reading comprehension (or selective reading).

No one said anything about the fans "controlling" Nintendo. Nice strawman, now watch your argument blow away in the wind.

Moaning about "cost cutting" assumes that the game was online based from the start and that Nintendo cut the feature to save money. This is factually incorrect. The game simply doesn't have online because it wasn't designed for it. If Nintendo wanted it to be online, it would have been. They've done it in SSB, Mario Kart, hell even Excitebike for Wiiware has it. This is not a developmen or a money issue because they have no qualms making their games online. So this was clearly a design choice.

This is why all the bitching is moronic. Now wanting online play isn't wrong at all. Throwing a tantrum on the internet is. We've known it wasn't online for months. I assumed people would have gotten over this once the game came out but IGN's silly review proves otherwise. I don't really think people are so dense but to scream about something that actually isn't that important in the long wrong. Going off of Craig Harris' words, this looks like another fanboy crusade but using no online in NSMBW as a platform.

 

I'm having a very decent debate with everyone else in this thread, but I cannot take this post seriously.

EDIT: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be aggressive. I know you don't mean to call me a fanboy or throwing a tantrum, but that you are making a point about some of the other posters in this thread. Suffice to say this is just yet another Nintendo game that isn't for me.

Well, you're either into Mario or you're not. This is pure 2D Mario platforming, online play certaily isn't "the next step" like some of the naysayers want everyone to believe. It's an addition, an option, a selling point. But gameplaywise, unless it's built specifically for it...well then it's not that big of a deal to me. I like online play in my games but I don't require it, especially from a franchise that has primarily been single player.



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I like the classic one better. I think its the one made in 1984, not sure.



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I've done reviews before, I know its hard to use disgression on certain things, and every reviewer has their do's and don'ts but some games should be related to the amount of fun to be had with it.

I certainly can see comparing MW2 with MW that makes sense to me as 2 was designed in MW's image. But NSMBWii could be compared to the DS game but then the score would be skewed compared to the DS version this is a 10/10.

So then this game should be based on the game vs the player.

Just my 2 cents.

I've seen this before though... MKWii got lower scores to another game that got perfect scores.

Now it's happened again... oh well these scores will prove they don't reflect or mean anything soon enough I suppose.



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Crappy score for a game "better than the DS version".

Silly remarks from the usual Nintendo stalkers/haters.

Wonderful posts by Rol, noname, Khuutra and Claude to name a few.

Motion controls are an industry standard now. I shouldn't see any game that lacks this feature scoring above an 8.5. Lazy devs.
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BoleroOfFire said:
Crappy score for a game "better than the DS version".

Silly remarks from the usual Nintendo stalkers/haters.

Wonderful posts by Rol, noname, Khuutra, theprof00 and Claude to name a few.

Motion controls are an industry standard now. I shouldn't see any game that lacks this feature scoring above an 8.5. Lazy devs.
--an illustration of how absurd some of you sound

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