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Kenology on 12 November 2009

It never moved FROM the PSP.  Didn't Capcom already commit a MH title to PSP before the MH3 was even released?



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jarrod on 12 November 2009
outlawauron said:
Kenology said:
@outlaw:

That's not even a fair question - like the two are mutually exclusive or something. Monster Hunter is a beast on PSP, a handheld system. Monster Hunter is a beast on Wii, being the best selling console iteration ever. The series is a bigger beast on PSP, no denying that. Capcom already went on record saying they were happy with Monster Hunter sales (anyone know where that thread is?). They can release another game on PSP AND be happy with Wii MH sales. There's no conflict there whatsoever.

My only point in saying that is this, a company moving to the PSP to find more success does NOT mean that the console version sold badly. That's all.

Valkyria and MH still aren't comparable though.  PSP's only getting a minor MH spinoff while it's getting the full Valkyria sequel.



Euphoria14 on 12 November 2009
letsdance said:
Euphoria14 said:
Valkyria Chronicles was in bargain bins 3 months after release?

I bought the game about 4-5 months after it released and it was $60 at Gamestop. Not to mention, the "bargain bin" you are talking about was when Valkyria Chronicles temporarily went to $30 at Gamestop for the spring sale in April. That was already about 6 months after release, not the 3 you alluded to.

After that however the price went back up to $60, then later to $40. Then just recently it was reduced to $19.99. I think this was last month?

So $60 isn't bargain bin, neither is $40. I think your definition of "bargain bin" is a bit skewed.

Also talking about expectations, the game is an SJRPG, a genre which doesn't normally see high sales. I believe FF: Tactics is the only one to ever sell beyond 1Million, could be wrong, but you think SEGA honestly expected around 600k sales in Japan only for this title?

You think SEGA expected it to be the highest selling SJRPG on home consoles this gen, beating out Fire Emblem?


Anyways, just giving my take on this whole thing.


Thank you. The Gamestop deal was the retail making aggressive pricing strageties to gain larger market share and has nothing to do with SEGA and down to 40 dollars is typical for older games. Games that get thrown into bargin bins go to about 20 dollars (Like TLR and IU)

Part I bolded - Not many JRPGs even get 600k in Japan only.

Valkyria Chronicles sold 220k in Japan.



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jarrod on 12 November 2009
Euphoria14 said:
letsdance said:
Euphoria14 said:
Valkyria Chronicles was in bargain bins 3 months after release?

I bought the game about 4-5 months after it released and it was $60 at Gamestop. Not to mention, the "bargain bin" you are talking about was when Valkyria Chronicles temporarily went to $30 at Gamestop for the spring sale in April. That was already about 6 months after release, not the 3 you alluded to.

After that however the price went back up to $60, then later to $40. Then just recently it was reduced to $19.99. I think this was last month?

So $60 isn't bargain bin, neither is $40. I think your definition of "bargain bin" is a bit skewed.

Also talking about expectations, the game is an SJRPG, a genre which doesn't normally see high sales. I believe FF: Tactics is the only one to ever sell beyond 1Million, could be wrong, but you think SEGA honestly expected around 600k sales in Japan only for this title?

You think SEGA expected it to be the highest selling SJRPG on home consoles this gen, beating out Fire Emblem?


Anyways, just giving my take on this whole thing.


Thank you. The Gamestop deal was the retail making aggressive pricing strageties to gain larger market share and has nothing to do with SEGA and down to 40 dollars is typical for older games. Games that get thrown into bargin bins go to about 20 dollars (Like TLR and IU)

Part I bolded - Not many JRPGs even get 600k in Japan only.

Valkyria Chronicles sold 220k in Japan.

It sold 141k + 58k Best according to Famitsu.

Why does every sales thread have to turn into Valkyria or GT5? :/



letsdance on 12 November 2009
Euphoria14 said:
letsdance said:
Euphoria14 said:
Valkyria Chronicles was in bargain bins 3 months after release?

I bought the game about 4-5 months after it released and it was $60 at Gamestop. Not to mention, the "bargain bin" you are talking about was when Valkyria Chronicles temporarily went to $30 at Gamestop for the spring sale in April. That was already about 6 months after release, not the 3 you alluded to.

After that however the price went back up to $60, then later to $40. Then just recently it was reduced to $19.99. I think this was last month?

So $60 isn't bargain bin, neither is $40. I think your definition of "bargain bin" is a bit skewed.

Also talking about expectations, the game is an SJRPG, a genre which doesn't normally see high sales. I believe FF: Tactics is the only one to ever sell beyond 1Million, could be wrong, but you think SEGA honestly expected around 600k sales in Japan only for this title?

You think SEGA expected it to be the highest selling SJRPG on home consoles this gen, beating out Fire Emblem?


Anyways, just giving my take on this whole thing.


Thank you. The Gamestop deal was the retail making aggressive pricing strageties to gain larger market share and has nothing to do with SEGA and down to 40 dollars is typical for older games. Games that get thrown into bargin bins go to about 20 dollars (Like TLR and IU)

Part I bolded - Not many JRPGs even get 600k in Japan only.

Valkyria Chronicles sold 220k in Japan.

right but jarrod was saying their expectations were 600k in japan only.



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outlawauron on 12 November 2009
jarrod said:
outlawauron said:
Kenology said:
@outlaw:

That's not even a fair question - like the two are mutually exclusive or something. Monster Hunter is a beast on PSP, a handheld system. Monster Hunter is a beast on Wii, being the best selling console iteration ever. The series is a bigger beast on PSP, no denying that. Capcom already went on record saying they were happy with Monster Hunter sales (anyone know where that thread is?). They can release another game on PSP AND be happy with Wii MH sales. There's no conflict there whatsoever.

My only point in saying that is this, a company moving to the PSP to find more success does NOT mean that the console version sold badly. That's all.

Valkyria and MH still aren't comparable though.  PSP's only getting a minor MH spinoff while it's getting the full Valkyria sequel.


PSP is getting two spin offs (the one with Taiko and the other starring the cat) as well as the inevitable Monster Hunter Portable 3.

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outlawauron on 12 November 2009
letsdance said:
Euphoria14 said:
letsdance said:
Euphoria14 said:
Valkyria Chronicles was in bargain bins 3 months after release?

I bought the game about 4-5 months after it released and it was $60 at Gamestop. Not to mention, the "bargain bin" you are talking about was when Valkyria Chronicles temporarily went to $30 at Gamestop for the spring sale in April. That was already about 6 months after release, not the 3 you alluded to.

After that however the price went back up to $60, then later to $40. Then just recently it was reduced to $19.99. I think this was last month?

So $60 isn't bargain bin, neither is $40. I think your definition of "bargain bin" is a bit skewed.

Also talking about expectations, the game is an SJRPG, a genre which doesn't normally see high sales. I believe FF: Tactics is the only one to ever sell beyond 1Million, could be wrong, but you think SEGA honestly expected around 600k sales in Japan only for this title?

You think SEGA expected it to be the highest selling SJRPG on home consoles this gen, beating out Fire Emblem?


Anyways, just giving my take on this whole thing.


Thank you. The Gamestop deal was the retail making aggressive pricing strageties to gain larger market share and has nothing to do with SEGA and down to 40 dollars is typical for older games. Games that get thrown into bargin bins go to about 20 dollars (Like TLR and IU)

Part I bolded - Not many JRPGs even get 600k in Japan only.

Valkyria Chronicles sold 220k in Japan.

right but jarrod was saying their expectations were 600k in japan only.


Which he has nothing to back that up with, other than VC appearing on the PSP. (which really is really weak evidence, at best)

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jarrod on 12 November 2009
letsdance said:
Euphoria14 said:
letsdance said:
Euphoria14 said:
Valkyria Chronicles was in bargain bins 3 months after release?

I bought the game about 4-5 months after it released and it was $60 at Gamestop. Not to mention, the "bargain bin" you are talking about was when Valkyria Chronicles temporarily went to $30 at Gamestop for the spring sale in April. That was already about 6 months after release, not the 3 you alluded to.

After that however the price went back up to $60, then later to $40. Then just recently it was reduced to $19.99. I think this was last month?

So $60 isn't bargain bin, neither is $40. I think your definition of "bargain bin" is a bit skewed.

Also talking about expectations, the game is an SJRPG, a genre which doesn't normally see high sales. I believe FF: Tactics is the only one to ever sell beyond 1Million, could be wrong, but you think SEGA honestly expected around 600k sales in Japan only for this title?

You think SEGA expected it to be the highest selling SJRPG on home consoles this gen, beating out Fire Emblem?


Anyways, just giving my take on this whole thing.


Thank you. The Gamestop deal was the retail making aggressive pricing strageties to gain larger market share and has nothing to do with SEGA and down to 40 dollars is typical for older games. Games that get thrown into bargin bins go to about 20 dollars (Like TLR and IU)

Part I bolded - Not many JRPGs even get 600k in Japan only.

Valkyria Chronicles sold 220k in Japan.

right but jarrod was saying their expectations were 600k in japan only.

I'm saying their expectations were likely higher (based off the series abandoning PS3 for greener pastures), and I'm using Sakura Taisen as an example of genre potential (from the same team, same publisher and also on a 2nd place console).  Honestly, Sakura Taisen makes for a much better comparable than something like Fire Emblem or really any other SRPG.

 

outlawauron said:
jarrod said:
outlawauron said:
Kenology said:
@outlaw:

That's not even a fair question - like the two are mutually exclusive or something. Monster Hunter is a beast on PSP, a handheld system. Monster Hunter is a beast on Wii, being the best selling console iteration ever. The series is a bigger beast on PSP, no denying that. Capcom already went on record saying they were happy with Monster Hunter sales (anyone know where that thread is?). They can release another game on PSP AND be happy with Wii MH sales. There's no conflict there whatsoever.

My only point in saying that is this, a company moving to the PSP to find more success does NOT mean that the console version sold badly. That's all.

Valkyria and MH still aren't comparable though.  PSP's only getting a minor MH spinoff while it's getting the full Valkyria sequel.

PSP is getting two spin offs (the one with Taiko and the other starring the cat) as well as the inevitable Monster Hunter Portable 3.

PSP's only getting one spinoff I'm aware of (Felyne Village)?  And while I don't doubt we'll see MHP3rd late next year, it's not yet announced, and MH3 probably isn't the last we'll see of the series on Wii (MH3G at the very least is probably going to happen).

Still, your comparison would only work if PSP got MH4 while Wii didn't... 



bluthunder on 12 November 2009
outlawauron said:
bluthunder said:
Call of Duty 4 over 200,000 on PS3 now.

Media Create 2008 Top 500:

129. [PS3] Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision) 107,639 / 146,443

Media Create week ending Nov 08 2009:

33. [PS3] Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Legendary Hits) (Activision) - 4.376 / 62.657

Combined sales - 207,033

Ohh, do you have a link so I can see all the top 200 or whatever you saw?

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=68056



bluthunder on 12 November 2009

Also, Uncharted approaching 100,000.

Media Create 2008 Top 500:

467. [PS3] Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (SCE) 23,162 / 62,664

Media Create week ending Nov 08 2009:

38. [PS3] Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (Playstation 3 the Best) (SCE) - 3.310 / 33.121

Combined sales - 95,785