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Gnizmo on 07 November 2009
Reasonable said:

Yeah, I don't think its a huge difference either - however, if you want to play these games on a PS3 hooked up to an HD TV, you will be getting a nicer visual presentation of essentially the same game and assets - ideally you also be getting a smooth frame rate and no tearing, too.

I might well pick this up as I missed the GoW titles (solid PC man at the time) and would like to play them before I try out GoW3.  I toyed with picking them up cheap for PS2 and having my PS3 up-scaling them, but clearly having them available native to PS3 with HD resolution is preferable.

Definitely worth picking up if you want to try the games. Just locking the framerate would be enough reason for me. Trophies are a cool bonus. On top of that you don't have to hunt down some second hand seller and hope to get a decent copy. I am hoping more game series get compilations like this. Well, I should say the one that have a story should get them. GoW very loosely fits that definition of course, but still fits it well enough imo.



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Rainbird on 07 November 2009
Gnizmo said:
Reasonable said:

Yeah, I don't think its a huge difference either - however, if you want to play these games on a PS3 hooked up to an HD TV, you will be getting a nicer visual presentation of essentially the same game and assets - ideally you also be getting a smooth frame rate and no tearing, too.

I might well pick this up as I missed the GoW titles (solid PC man at the time) and would like to play them before I try out GoW3.  I toyed with picking them up cheap for PS2 and having my PS3 up-scaling them, but clearly having them available native to PS3 with HD resolution is preferable.

Definitely worth picking up if you want to try the games. Just locking the framerate would be enough reason for me. Trophies are a cool bonus. On top of that you don't have to hunt down some second hand seller and hope to get a decent copy. I am hoping more game series get compilations like this. Well, I should say the one that have a story should get them. GoW very loosely fits that definition of course, but still fits it well enough imo.

I think you should pick them up before GoW3 as well. I'm going to pre-order this for import even though I have the originals (I don't have anything to play them on though >_>), just because I want to play them again before GoW3, but not two weeks before GoW3 is released (or whenever Sony decides to release it in Europe. I wouldn't be surprised to see the two getting released neck and neck).

The collection should also offer sharper controls due to the lock at 60 FPS (where they were only 30 FPS on the PS2). That, the resolution and AA and the v-lock is all the reason I need to throw a bit of cash after this. Trophies only offer more reasons of ocurse



Avarice28 on 07 November 2009
Slimebeast said:
Avarice28 said:
Slimebeast said:

This just proves how unimportant screen resolution actually is, despite all the talk about HD.

The HD version is just sharper.

I am amazed how small the difference is.

Obviously you are not a fan of the series, but if you were would you pay 40$ for a blurry mess SD game from the ps2 era?   I perfer to have the HD version for it's sharper textures due to AA, vivid colors, and Solid frame rate.  I know you did not say this slimebeast, but I find it "funny" when wii only owners complain about remakes when every other game they buy on the wii "is" a remake with NO enhancements what so ever (gamecube to wii not that much of a difference IMO).  It is like the pot calling the kettle black.  This is obviously a game for those of us (me) who did not get to play God of War last generation (I had an xbox) and trophy whores like myself (guilty).

Of course I always prefer the best grafix possible, but Im not a big fan of putting resources into resolution, and I argue about this all the time with PC fans too.

For example, look at the small thumbnails in my sig. Even though theyre minimal, there's certain obvious qualities beyond the resolution that instantly show they are current gen grafix.

There's so many grafix effects that are far more important than resolution. Resolution is extremely over-rated.

Yeah but in the case of a last gen SD game that was good looking years ago, would someone really buy this if it did not have any enhancements? Probably not, but we do agree that resolution is the the only thing that makes this game look smoother (they did not bump the texture quality, they only did 4x AA and v-synced it at 60 frames per second).  But as you have said it is not enough to wow some, but for me at least it is a first time to play a game I missed last generation (I would at least call it the definative version).



Barozi on 07 November 2009
Reasonable said:
Squilliam said:
Couldn't you do this on a PC emulator anyway?

PC only does everything.

except for trophies.



Staude on 07 November 2009
Slimebeast said:
Avarice28 said:
Slimebeast said:

This just proves how unimportant screen resolution actually is, despite all the talk about HD.

The HD version is just sharper.

I am amazed how small the difference is.

Obviously you are not a fan of the series, but if you were would you pay 40$ for a blurry mess SD game from the ps2 era?   I perfer to have the HD version for it's sharper textures due to AA, vivid colors, and Solid frame rate.  I know you did not say this slimebeast, but I find it "funny" when wii only owners complain about remakes when every other game they buy on the wii "is" a remake with NO enhancements what so ever (gamecube to wii not that much of a difference IMO).  It is like the pot calling the kettle black.  This is obviously a game for those of us (me) who did not get to play God of War last generation (I had an xbox) and trophy whores like myself (guilty).

Of course I always prefer the best grafix possible, but Im not a big fan of putting resources into resolution, and I argue about this all the time with PC fans too.

For example, look at the small thumbnails in my sig. Even though theyre minimal, there's certain obvious qualities beyond the resolution that instantly show they are current gen grafix.

There's so many grafix effects that are far more important than resolution. Resolution is extremely over-rated.

Running a game at 640x480 vs 1920x1080... Insane difference. Try to run crysis on 640x480 (well if you could XD) even on the best graphics settings it'll look terrible.

 

 

@Gnizmo.. What do you mean.. you people ?



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Reasonable on 07 November 2009
Barozi said:
Reasonable said:
Squilliam said:
Couldn't you do this on a PC emulator anyway?

PC only does everything.

except for trophies.

Steam has achievements!



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Slimebeast on 07 November 2009
Staude said:
Slimebeast said:
Avarice28 said:
Slimebeast said:

This just proves how unimportant screen resolution actually is, despite all the talk about HD.

The HD version is just sharper.

I am amazed how small the difference is.

Obviously you are not a fan of the series, but if you were would you pay 40$ for a blurry mess SD game from the ps2 era?   I perfer to have the HD version for it's sharper textures due to AA, vivid colors, and Solid frame rate.  I know you did not say this slimebeast, but I find it "funny" when wii only owners complain about remakes when every other game they buy on the wii "is" a remake with NO enhancements what so ever (gamecube to wii not that much of a difference IMO).  It is like the pot calling the kettle black.  This is obviously a game for those of us (me) who did not get to play God of War last generation (I had an xbox) and trophy whores like myself (guilty).

Of course I always prefer the best grafix possible, but Im not a big fan of putting resources into resolution, and I argue about this all the time with PC fans too.

For example, look at the small thumbnails in my sig. Even though theyre minimal, there's certain obvious qualities beyond the resolution that instantly show they are current gen grafix.

There's so many grafix effects that are far more important than resolution. Resolution is extremely over-rated.

Running a game at 640x480 vs 1920x1080... Insane difference. Try to run crysis on 640x480 (well if you could XD) even on the best graphics settings it'll look terrible.

 

No, it's not an insane difference. I have a high-end PC on which I play most games at 1920x1200, but Biosock and Oblivion look almost just as good when I play them on my X360 on my mommas SD TV.



Rainbird on 07 November 2009
Slimebeast said:
Staude said:
Slimebeast said:
Avarice28 said:
Slimebeast said:

This just proves how unimportant screen resolution actually is, despite all the talk about HD.

The HD version is just sharper.

I am amazed how small the difference is.

Obviously you are not a fan of the series, but if you were would you pay 40$ for a blurry mess SD game from the ps2 era?   I perfer to have the HD version for it's sharper textures due to AA, vivid colors, and Solid frame rate.  I know you did not say this slimebeast, but I find it "funny" when wii only owners complain about remakes when every other game they buy on the wii "is" a remake with NO enhancements what so ever (gamecube to wii not that much of a difference IMO).  It is like the pot calling the kettle black.  This is obviously a game for those of us (me) who did not get to play God of War last generation (I had an xbox) and trophy whores like myself (guilty).

Of course I always prefer the best grafix possible, but Im not a big fan of putting resources into resolution, and I argue about this all the time with PC fans too.

For example, look at the small thumbnails in my sig. Even though theyre minimal, there's certain obvious qualities beyond the resolution that instantly show they are current gen grafix.

There's so many grafix effects that are far more important than resolution. Resolution is extremely over-rated.

Running a game at 640x480 vs 1920x1080... Insane difference. Try to run crysis on 640x480 (well if you could XD) even on the best graphics settings it'll look terrible.

No, it's not an insane difference. I have a high-end PC on which I play most games at 1920x1200, but Biosock and Oblivion look almost just as good when I play them on my X360 on my mommas SD TV.

Which is how big?

Resolution definitely means something, and if you have a 40" HDTV, then there will be a world of difference between running the collection and the originals on that TV.

If BioShock always ran in SD, it would look like crap when played on a HDTV.

The size of the screen is what makes resolution important.



Slimebeast on 07 November 2009
Rainbird said:
Slimebeast said:
Staude said:
Slimebeast said:
Avarice28 said:
Slimebeast said:

This just proves how unimportant screen resolution actually is, despite all the talk about HD.

The HD version is just sharper.

I am amazed how small the difference is.

Obviously you are not a fan of the series, but if you were would you pay 40$ for a blurry mess SD game from the ps2 era?   I perfer to have the HD version for it's sharper textures due to AA, vivid colors, and Solid frame rate.  I know you did not say this slimebeast, but I find it "funny" when wii only owners complain about remakes when every other game they buy on the wii "is" a remake with NO enhancements what so ever (gamecube to wii not that much of a difference IMO).  It is like the pot calling the kettle black.  This is obviously a game for those of us (me) who did not get to play God of War last generation (I had an xbox) and trophy whores like myself (guilty).

Of course I always prefer the best grafix possible, but Im not a big fan of putting resources into resolution, and I argue about this all the time with PC fans too.

For example, look at the small thumbnails in my sig. Even though theyre minimal, there's certain obvious qualities beyond the resolution that instantly show they are current gen grafix.

There's so many grafix effects that are far more important than resolution. Resolution is extremely over-rated.

Running a game at 640x480 vs 1920x1080... Insane difference. Try to run crysis on 640x480 (well if you could XD) even on the best graphics settings it'll look terrible.

No, it's not an insane difference. I have a high-end PC on which I play most games at 1920x1200, but Biosock and Oblivion look almost just as good when I play them on my X360 on my mommas SD TV.

Which is how big?

Resolution definitely means something, and if you have a 40" HDTV, then there will be a world of difference between running the collection and the originals on that TV.

If BioShock always ran in SD, it would look like crap when played on a HDTV.

The size of the screen is what makes resolution important.

My 1920x1200 screen for the PC is 24 inch, and my mommas SD TV is 28 inch.



Rainbird on 07 November 2009
Slimebeast said:
Rainbird said:
Slimebeast said:
Staude said:
Slimebeast said:
Avarice28 said:
Slimebeast said:

This just proves how unimportant screen resolution actually is, despite all the talk about HD.

The HD version is just sharper.

I am amazed how small the difference is.

Obviously you are not a fan of the series, but if you were would you pay 40$ for a blurry mess SD game from the ps2 era?   I perfer to have the HD version for it's sharper textures due to AA, vivid colors, and Solid frame rate.  I know you did not say this slimebeast, but I find it "funny" when wii only owners complain about remakes when every other game they buy on the wii "is" a remake with NO enhancements what so ever (gamecube to wii not that much of a difference IMO).  It is like the pot calling the kettle black.  This is obviously a game for those of us (me) who did not get to play God of War last generation (I had an xbox) and trophy whores like myself (guilty).

Of course I always prefer the best grafix possible, but Im not a big fan of putting resources into resolution, and I argue about this all the time with PC fans too.

For example, look at the small thumbnails in my sig. Even though theyre minimal, there's certain obvious qualities beyond the resolution that instantly show they are current gen grafix.

There's so many grafix effects that are far more important than resolution. Resolution is extremely over-rated.

Running a game at 640x480 vs 1920x1080... Insane difference. Try to run crysis on 640x480 (well if you could XD) even on the best graphics settings it'll look terrible.

No, it's not an insane difference. I have a high-end PC on which I play most games at 1920x1200, but Biosock and Oblivion look almost just as good when I play them on my X360 on my mommas SD TV.

Which is how big?

Resolution definitely means something, and if you have a 40" HDTV, then there will be a world of difference between running the collection and the originals on that TV.

If BioShock always ran in SD, it would look like crap when played on a HDTV.

The size of the screen is what makes resolution important.

My 1920x1200 screen for the PC is 24 inch, and my mommas SD TV is 28 inch.

Generally, I believe you start noticing the difference between 720p and 1080p when a screen hits 40 inches or higher. Seeing as your mom's 28 inch TV is SD, an SD picture will look better than if you had it on a 28 inch HDTV, because the picture doesn't have to be scaled.

I have played the God of War games on my 40" HDTV on a PS2, and the was picture blurry as hell. Playing the God of War Collection will be much better on my TV because of the higher resolution and the added anti-aliasing.

Both of these images are in the native resolutions:

("right click -> view image" to see the whole thing)

Of these two, the one with the higher resolution will be the better looking when blown up to 40 inches. That is why both the PS3 and 360 support HD output.