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HappySqurriel said:
ckmlb said:
HappySqurriel said:
ckmlb said:

Well off by what standard? If you mean the state is in debt I don't deny that but so is the federal government.

I doubt you could make a strong argument that people are better off in California ...

Can you tell me in what way are they worse off? I'm guessing you live in Texas?

How about California has an unemployment rate that is over 12%, and 33% of employers expect to lay people off in 2010?

What about prisons becomming so over-crowded that California is being forced to release prisoners?

California has become a nightmare of increasing government taking creating higher deficits and higher taxes, which forces productive individuals and companies out of the state, which pushes the government to have higher deficits and higher taxes.

I don't live in either state, but California is a high profile disaster that is becomming well known around the world.

Some states have similar or higher unemployment rates:

South Carolina a heavily republican state has unemployment at 11.6%, Nevada is at 13.3%, Tennesee is at 10.5%, Alabama at 10.7% and a all those except Nevada are heavily republican states with low taxes and less government intervention than California.

Government intervention is only one possible factors out of many, California is one of the biggest hit states because of the real estate market bubble.

The prisoner problem has a lot to do with the fact that California alone is about 10% of the US population plus many millions of illegal immigrants.

Also, even though you say productive individuals are leaving the state, Californian has the 9th highest median household income of any US state, Texas is number 27. A Texan household makes on average 11 thousand less dollars than a Californian one.



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ckmlb said:
HappySqurriel said:
ckmlb said:
HappySqurriel said:
ckmlb said:
 

Well off by what standard? If you mean the state is in debt I don't deny that but so is the federal government.

I doubt you could make a strong argument that people are better off in California ...

Can you tell me in what way are they worse off? I'm guessing you live in Texas?

How about California has an unemployment rate that is over 12%, and 33% of employers expect to lay people off in 2010?

What about prisons becomming so over-crowded that California is being forced to release prisoners?

California has become a nightmare of increasing government taking creating higher deficits and higher taxes, which forces productive individuals and companies out of the state, which pushes the government to have higher deficits and higher taxes.

I don't live in either state, but California is a high profile disaster that is becomming well known around the world.

Some states have similar or higher unemployment rates:

South Carolina a heavily republican state has unemployment at 11.6%, Nevada is at 13.3%, Tennesee is at 10.5%, Alabama at 10.7% and a all those except Nevada are heavily republican states with low taxes and less government intervention than California.

Government intervention is only one possible factors out of many, California is one of the biggest hit states because of the real estate market bubble.

The prisoner problem has a lot to do with the fact that California alone is about 10% of the US population plus many millions of illegal immigrants.

Also, even though you say productive individuals are leaving the state, Californian has the 9th highest median household income of any US state, Texas is number 27. A Texan household makes on average 11 thousand less dollars than a Californian one.

Pro-tip: adjust income for cost of living



HappySqurriel said:
ckmlb said:
HappySqurriel said:
ckmlb said:
HappySqurriel said:
ckmlb said:
 

Well off by what standard? If you mean the state is in debt I don't deny that but so is the federal government.

I doubt you could make a strong argument that people are better off in California ...

Can you tell me in what way are they worse off? I'm guessing you live in Texas?

Pro-tip: adjust income for cost of living

Fair enough, but California is 10th for average life expectancy among US states, while Texas is 30th. The average Californian lives 1.5 years longer than the average Texan, surely life can't be that bad if people there live longer than in Texas.



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According to the Gallup health and well being index, California ranks as the 9th best state to live in and 7th in work quality, Texas ranks 21st and 14th in work quality.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/11/united-states-healthy-lifestyle-health-healthy-living.html
http://www.ahiphiwire.org/wellbeing



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My viewpoint on this issue is very extreme, so read this at your own risk.

I say we just cut off food supply from the poor and let them die. They're obviously not contributing to society at the current state they're in (jobless, often with several kids) and are only hurting the economy.



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tedsteriscool said:

My viewpoint on this issue is very extreme, so read this at your own risk.

I say we just cut off food supply from the poor and let them die. They're obviously not contributing to society at the current state they're in (jobless, often with several kids) and are only hurting the economy.

Is that sarcasm or are you a republican? :P



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ckmlb said:
tedsteriscool said:

My viewpoint on this issue is very extreme, so read this at your own risk.

I say we just cut off food supply from the poor and let them die. They're obviously not contributing to society at the current state they're in (jobless, often with several kids) and are only hurting the economy.

Is that sarcasm or are you a republican? :P

Neither. I just despise freeloaders. Especially the local Hispanics who have children every 2 years (seriously, if you ask how old their kids are they're all almost EXATLY 2 years apart. The most I've seen like this is 8) so they can stay on the program.



tedsteriscool said:
ckmlb said:
tedsteriscool said:

My viewpoint on this issue is very extreme, so read this at your own risk.

I say we just cut off food supply from the poor and let them die. They're obviously not contributing to society at the current state they're in (jobless, often with several kids) and are only hurting the economy.

Is that sarcasm or are you a republican? :P

Neither. I just despise freeloaders. Especially the local Hispanics who have children every 2 years (seriously, if you ask how old their kids are they're all almost EXATLY 2 years apart. The most I've seen like this is 8) so they can stay on the program.

That sounds kinda racist, but about having a lot of kids you should take your argument to the Catholic church who tells them not to use condoms and a lot of thoe immigrants work harder than the majority of people, but actual free loaders (that aren't contributing in labor or in other ways) are a negative. Also, there are a lot of white families on welfare with a lot of kids out there too.



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ckmlb said:
tedsteriscool said:
ckmlb said:
tedsteriscool said:

My viewpoint on this issue is very extreme, so read this at your own risk.

I say we just cut off food supply from the poor and let them die. They're obviously not contributing to society at the current state they're in (jobless, often with several kids) and are only hurting the economy.

Is that sarcasm or are you a republican? :P

Neither. I just despise freeloaders. Especially the local Hispanics who have children every 2 years (seriously, if you ask how old their kids are they're all almost EXATLY 2 years apart. The most I've seen like this is 8) so they can stay on the program.

That sounds kinda racist, but about having a lot of kids you should take your argument to the Catholic church who tells them not to use condoms and a lot of thoe immigrants work harder than the majority of people, but actual free loaders (that aren't contributing in labor or in other ways) are a negative. Also, there are a lot of white families on welfare with a lot of kids out there too.

I can see how it can come off as racist. It wasn't, was just an observation. I actually did a report for sociology once and had to survey ethnic groups. I just dug out my work and here's what I got:

 

On Welfare:

 

African Americans

1-3 Children: 1

4-6 Children: 2

7+ Children: 0

 

Hispanics

1-3 Children: 0

4-6 Children: 3

7+ Children: 4

 

Caucasian:

1-3 Children: 3

4-6 Children: 0

7+ Children: 0

 

Granted, this is all just sample data. Plus, my local city has very few African Americans (Maybe 10%) with Hispanics/Whites divided evenly (40% each) and misc. for the remaining ~10%.

 

 



Excuse me folks

FOOD STAMPS IS NOT WELFARE.



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