Carl2291 said: GT5:P aint GT5 ¬_¬ If this is at Eurogamer Expo i might get to play it

you know how kowenicki is..

lucky mofos, i want GT5 in my mall.

Lol. Way to be 1) Lazy and 2) Throw out an unsubstantiated accusation. Is that how you control the spin? "You were banned for being a troll before... or not, I've got no F ing idea." You still debase your subject, however, so you probably don't really care if the accusation is accurate, do you?

i go to the birmingham one its only down the road

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=88263

darthdevidem01 said: Carl2291 said: GT5:P aint GT5 ¬_¬ If this is at Eurogamer Expo i might get to play it lol thats like me telling kowenicki, why did you buy Forza 3 when you already had Forza 2 they are not the same either, just like GT5:P & GT5 aren't the same

Sort of. GT5 isn't GT5P. But I wouldn't expect FM2 - FM3 leaps. In fact I dont expect that much of a difference in the feel of the game. Some graphics updates and full track and car rosters. But not loads of changes. GT4P and GT4 were almost identical even though there was a gap between them releasing.

FM3 fever has hit UK quite hard. If GT5 comes here in the same shape as it was in TGS09, then it may do more harm than good. FM3 has really taken us aback here. It is leagues ahead of anything else currently on the market both PC and Console. So the GT5 they bring needs to match or better that. Otherwise the ones waiting for GT5 may just say sod it FM3 is here now and beats it. I'm painting a real picture. FM3 hasn't been given best racing game of all time title for no reason. And more importantly getting ISR's highest score. It's selling the 250gbhdd 360 package quite well in my home city.

selnor said: darthdevidem01 said: Carl2291 said: GT5:P aint GT5 ¬_¬ If this is at Eurogamer Expo i might get to play it lol thats like me telling kowenicki, why did you buy Forza 3 when you already had Forza 2 they are not the same either, just like GT5:P & GT5 aren't the same Sort of. GT5 isn't GT5P. But I wouldn't expect FM2 - FM3 leaps. In fact I dont expect that much of a difference in the feel of the game. Some graphics updates and full track and car rosters. But not loads of changes. GT4P and GT4 were almost identical even though there was a gap between them releasing. FM3 fever has hit UK quite hard. If GT5 comes here in the same shape as it was in TGS09, then it may do more harm than good. FM3 has really taken us aback here. It is leagues ahead of anything else currently on the market both PC and Console. So the GT5 they bring needs to match or better that. Otherwise the ones waiting for GT5 may just say sod it FM3 is here now and beats it. I'm painting a real picture. FM3 hasn't been given best racing game of all time title for no reason. And more importantly getting ISR's highest score. It's selling the 250gbhdd 360 package quite well in my home city.

You don't expect Forza 2 - Forza 3 leaps from GT5:P - GT5? What "leaps" has there been from F2-F3 that GT5 wont be able to match?

GT5:P to GT5 has Rally, Nascar, Over 900 more cars, Damage, head tracking, Top Gear test track(seeing as you seem to be focusing on the UK)... Etc.

And you think GT5 may do more harm than good? lol... Please tell me you mean it may do harm to Forza.

Only one person on my FL has been playing Forza 3. I wouldn't say it's as big as you are making it out to be. And it's rating is sitting at the same spot as Forza 1, and is likely to drop. Not to mention, i am yet to see a TV advert for the game.

Carl2291 said: selnor said: darthdevidem01 said: Carl2291 said: GT5:P aint GT5 ¬_¬ If this is at Eurogamer Expo i might get to play it lol thats like me telling kowenicki, why did you buy Forza 3 when you already had Forza 2 they are not the same either, just like GT5:P & GT5 aren't the same Sort of. GT5 isn't GT5P. But I wouldn't expect FM2 - FM3 leaps. In fact I dont expect that much of a difference in the feel of the game. Some graphics updates and full track and car rosters. But not loads of changes. GT4P and GT4 were almost identical even though there was a gap between them releasing. FM3 fever has hit UK quite hard. If GT5 comes here in the same shape as it was in TGS09, then it may do more harm than good. FM3 has really taken us aback here. It is leagues ahead of anything else currently on the market both PC and Console. So the GT5 they bring needs to match or better that. Otherwise the ones waiting for GT5 may just say sod it FM3 is here now and beats it. I'm painting a real picture. FM3 hasn't been given best racing game of all time title for no reason. And more importantly getting ISR's highest score. It's selling the 250gbhdd 360 package quite well in my home city. You don't expect Forza 2 - Forza 3 leaps from GT5:P - GT5? What "leaps" has there been from F2-F3 that GT5 wont be able to match? GT5:P to GT5 has Rally, Nascar, Over 900 more cars, Damage, head tracking, Top Gear test track(seeing as you seem to be focusing on the UK)... Etc. And you think GT5 may do more harm than good? lol... Please tell me you mean it may do harm to Forza. Only one person on my FL has been playing Forza 3. I wouldn't say it's as big as you are making it out to be. And it's rating is sitting at the same spot as Forza 1, and is likely to drop. Not to mention, i am yet to see a TV advert for the game.

I'm mean in terms of the engines. graphics aren't that different from GT5P ( the cars are better, scenery still looks fairly bland ). I wasn't having a go, alot of the media said the GT5 at TGS09 was bettered by FM3 at TGs09. What I was saying is if it is what was shown at TGs09, we are already playing FM3. Yes it's the full game, but people will compare. Even the reviews that gave it 8/10 still said it's the best racing game ever.

Seriously after experiencing FM3 in full, it's a leap over every racing game out there. I'm saying what Poly show the public needs to match it or beat it. Or alot of public wjo were waiting for GT5 may just get FM3 because it's here and they see no need to wait for GT5. FM3 really is that good.

selnor said: darthdevidem01 said: Carl2291 said: GT5:P aint GT5 ¬_¬ If this is at Eurogamer Expo i might get to play it lol thats like me telling kowenicki, why did you buy Forza 3 when you already had Forza 2 they are not the same either, just like GT5:P & GT5 aren't the same Sort of. GT5 isn't GT5P. But I wouldn't expect FM2 - FM3 leaps. In fact I dont expect that much of a difference in the feel of the game. Some graphics updates and full track and car rosters. But not loads of changes. GT4P and GT4 were almost identical even though there was a gap between them releasing. FM3 fever has hit UK quite hard. If GT5 comes here in the same shape as it was in TGS09, then it may do more harm than good. FM3 has really taken us aback here. It is leagues ahead of anything else currently on the market both PC and Console. So the GT5 they bring needs to match or better that. Otherwise the ones waiting for GT5 may just say sod it FM3 is here now and beats it. I'm painting a real picture. FM3 hasn't been given best racing game of all time title for no reason. And more importantly getting ISR's highest score. It's selling the 250gbhdd 360 package quite well in my home city.

Selnor I'm sure Forza 3 is one of the best racing games ever, I CAN'T wait to play it a week tomorrow at my friends b'day party.

BUT there is not much Forza 3 fever in UK or atleast where I am.

When a GT game is launched, magazines talk about it, televisions brim with GT ads, shops market it hugely.....GT FEVER really does hit & you know a GT game is launching

Retailers call years in which GT launch a "gran turismo year"

that isn't present with Forza 3

GT5 will also have the Top Gear track in it, its likely to even feature on the TOp Gear show......trust me GT5 won't do harm to itself!

selnor said: Carl2291 said: selnor said: darthdevidem01 said: Carl2291 said: GT5:P aint GT5 ¬_¬ If this is at Eurogamer Expo i might get to play it lol thats like me telling kowenicki, why did you buy Forza 3 when you already had Forza 2 they are not the same either, just like GT5:P & GT5 aren't the same Sort of. GT5 isn't GT5P. But I wouldn't expect FM2 - FM3 leaps. In fact I dont expect that much of a difference in the feel of the game. Some graphics updates and full track and car rosters. But not loads of changes. GT4P and GT4 were almost identical even though there was a gap between them releasing. FM3 fever has hit UK quite hard. If GT5 comes here in the same shape as it was in TGS09, then it may do more harm than good. FM3 has really taken us aback here. It is leagues ahead of anything else currently on the market both PC and Console. So the GT5 they bring needs to match or better that. Otherwise the ones waiting for GT5 may just say sod it FM3 is here now and beats it. I'm painting a real picture. FM3 hasn't been given best racing game of all time title for no reason. And more importantly getting ISR's highest score. It's selling the 250gbhdd 360 package quite well in my home city. You don't expect Forza 2 - Forza 3 leaps from GT5:P - GT5? What "leaps" has there been from F2-F3 that GT5 wont be able to match? GT5:P to GT5 has Rally, Nascar, Over 900 more cars, Damage, head tracking, Top Gear test track(seeing as you seem to be focusing on the UK)... Etc. And you think GT5 may do more harm than good? lol... Please tell me you mean it may do harm to Forza. Only one person on my FL has been playing Forza 3. I wouldn't say it's as big as you are making it out to be. And it's rating is sitting at the same spot as Forza 1, and is likely to drop. Not to mention, i am yet to see a TV advert for the game. I'm mean in terms of the engines. graphics aren't that different from GT5P ( the cars are better, scenery still looks fairly bland ). I wasn't having a go, alot of the media said the GT5 at TGS09 was bettered by FM3 at TGs09. What I was saying is if it is what was shown at TGs09, we are already playing FM3. Yes it's the full game, but people will compare. Even the reviews that gave it 8/10 still said it's the best racing game ever. Seriously after experiencing FM3 in full, it's a leap over every racing game out there. I'm saying what Poly show the public needs to match it or beat it. Or alot of public wjo were waiting for GT5 may just get FM3 because it's here and they see no need to wait for GT5. FM3 really is that good.

Fair enough. Although GT5 doesn't really need to look too much better than GT5:P for it to be appealing to the eye (even though it does).

And we all know it wont be the same version as shown at TGS, that's why the game is now releasing March instead of seemingly planned November/December 2009

Depends on how it needs to beat it. The only thing i see Forza 3 beating out GT5 on is physics, with the tyre deformation and all that stuff. Everything else i think GT5 will have in the bag. Graphics will be a virtual tie with GT5 likely having better car models and Forza 3 likely having the better scenery. Hopefully after this weekend il be able to tell you all how GT5 plays and looks.

GT5 just has too much content for it to be passed by. Not to mention the GT brand name alone will likely push it way above Forza 3 sales.

Actually... Now that F3 is released, have you revised your predictions on Meta rating and sales?