An 8v8 game, or 8v8 CoD? 8v8 CoD pubbing, not really that great. And your comparing console..... doesnt it autoaim on console? Plus people gotta use those sticks... PC and console are a different beast.

Have you ever played on a good PC on a good server? I have seen people play console and wasnt impressed... I am pretty sure the console fans just do not know what they are missing.

"Have you ever played on a good PC on a good server?"

I have played PC games all my life . I can play the games either way, it does not matter to me If use a Keyboard/Mouse or a 360 controller. I'm used to playing both control schemes. I don't let stuff like that bother me. I just don't see how only having 8 vs 8 can't be fun. People talk themselves into some strange shit.

I never liked 8v8 CoD4 for the most part. 8v8 is CS IMO, for CoD4 is was just a tad boring. 12v12 was OK, 16v16 was probably best on most maps. Part of the problem was at 8v8, you get 3 ppl leave in a short period it can get pretty unbalanced or server starts dying off. Ofc depends, sometimes it would fill back up quick.. but its a lot less stable playerwise. on a 32 man , people always come and go and you never even notice.

CaptDS9E said: "Have you ever played on a good PC on a good server?" I have played PC games all my life . I can play the games either way, it does not matter to me If use a Keyboard/Mouse or a 360 controller. I'm used to playing both control schemes. I don't let stuff like that bother me. I just don't see how only having 8 vs 8 can't be fun. People talk themselves into some strange shit.

The thing is, it's not because it only has 8v8. It's because:

- It can't play 16v16, or 32v32, or 64v64.
- It doesn't have the customization of the average PC FPS.
- It has no Mods.
- It has more lag.
- The host has advantage.
- You can't use Keyboard+Mouse.
- It has autoaim.
- It's nowhere near as fast as PC FPS.
- Console players are less skilled.
- Console players and FPS are less tactically profficient.
- You can't build a community like the ones that exist around a server.

I must be missing a few, but you get the point.

CaptDS9E said: "Have you ever played on a good PC on a good server?" I have played PC games all my life . I can play the games either way, it does not matter to me If use a Keyboard/Mouse or a 360 controller. I'm used to playing both control schemes. I don't let stuff like that bother me. I just don't see how only having 8 vs 8 can't be fun. People talk themselves into some strange shit.

I don't think I have played an 8v8 FPS since counter-strike, nd befoe that never. Especially on bigger maps 8v8 is extremely weak.

I don't think IW will really care because a few kids crying about dedicated servers.
The game still has like over 3 million preorders on consoles alone.

You don't like what they did, fine, don't buy the game.
You already know 50% of the people that signed that petition will buy the game.

Us console players have been playing on P2P for a long time, we don't complain and make petitions about it. I get the one odd laggy game once in a while, so what?

shio said: CaptDS9E said: "Have you ever played on a good PC on a good server?" I have played PC games all my life . I can play the games either way, it does not matter to me If use a Keyboard/Mouse or a 360 controller. I'm used to playing both control schemes. I don't let stuff like that bother me. I just don't see how only having 8 vs 8 can't be fun. People talk themselves into some strange shit. The thing is, it's not because it only has 8v8. It's because: - It can't play 16v16, or 32v32, or 64v64. - It doesn't have the customization of the average PC FPS. - It has no Mods. - It has more lag. - The host has advantage. - You can't use Keyboard+Mouse. - It has autoaim. - It's nowhere near as fast as PC FPS. - Console players are less skilled. - Console players and FPS are less tactically profficient. - You can't build a community like the ones that exist around a server. I must be missing a few, but you get the point.

Biggest amount of FUD I've ever read.  I even used my 360 controller the other day against an all pro (level 55 skilled players only) server on CoD4 PC and was second place on my team.  With keyboard and mouse I'm the top player on my team.  I go to the Xbox 360 (the version I had played for more than a year before just getting the PC version a few months ago) and I'm still the top player.  So I went from rarely ever playing a PC fps to dominating on CoD4 in like 3 hours.

You sir, are very very silly.

Oh and you CAN use keyboard and mouse on console.  You just have to buy an adapter.  The skills of the players are equal.  Keyboard and mouse is obviously a better interface as I can easily do better with that on PC than using my 360 controller, but the players are equally skilled if given time to adapt to the other controls.  I guarantee you take a PC shooter only player and put him on a 360 game and he'd suck for a while too until he got used to the different controls.  Console shooters are actually tougher to be skilled at and more of a challenge since you are using a less accurate interface and non-programmable/limited control buttons.

Smashed said: I don't think IW will really care because a few kids crying about dedicated servers. The game still has like over 3 million preorders on consoles alone. You don't like what they did, fine, don't buy the game. You already know 50% of the people that signed that petition will buy the game. Us console players have been playing on P2P for a long time, we don't complain and make petitions about it. I get the one odd laggy game once in a while, so what?

Contrary to popular belief, there are fr more kids playing on the consoles than on the PC. Probably why kids can put up with the lag, grown ups don't have that kind of patience.

 

@nightsurge

Yeah... tell me that when ALL console FPS stop having auto-aim, even in multiplayer. That's skill right there....

vlad321 said: Smashed said: I don't think IW will really care because a few kids crying about dedicated servers. The game still has like over 3 million preorders on consoles alone. You don't like what they did, fine, don't buy the game. You already know 50% of the people that signed that petition will buy the game. Us console players have been playing on P2P for a long time, we don't complain and make petitions about it. I get the one odd laggy game once in a while, so what? Contrary to popular belief, there are fr more kids playing on the consoles than on the PC. Probably why kids can put up with the lag, grown ups don't have that kind of patience.   @nightsurge Yeah... tell me that when ALL console FPS stop having auto-aim, even in multiplayer. That's skill right there....

Didn't really point that to "kids" it's just a nice word to call people.

Then don't play the game if you can handle it.

Smashed said: I don't think IW will really care because a few kids crying about dedicated servers. The game still has like over 3 million preorders on consoles alone. You don't like what they did, fine, don't buy the game. You already know 50% of the people that signed that petition will buy the game. Us console players have been playing on P2P for a long time, we don't complain and make petitions about it. I get the one odd laggy game once in a while, so what?

To quote vlad: "PC gamers aren't your average console sheep"

PC gamers are used to certain standards and do not want them taken away from them.

I'd say if you started playing more on PC and embraced community based multiplayer, you would never want to go back.