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noname2200 said:
Pharaoh said:
Well I bet most of those guys who signed that petition are cheaters and pirates. I have no sympathy for cheaters, play the game as it was intended. If you want to mod the game, become a developer and make the game you want and mod it as much as you want.

These developers and publishers put so much time and money into a product, just to see it destroyed or given away for free at the expense of the general public who just want to play the game as it was designed.

That's one hell of an opinion you have there.

It's wrong in every possible way, mind you, but I applaud you for being willing to wave it in public. I certainly wouldn't have the courage required to out myself like this.

He's not wrong about most of the guys signing the petition being pirates. I'd wager the grand majority of those signing would not have purchased the copy at retail anyway. As a primarily PC gamer, I play lots of games on custom servers, and anytime someone in our group says something like "hey lets play on <insert company hosted server here>" a couple of guys say they can't, their copy isn't legal. It's a rampant issue, and it's the pirates fault, not the company, that the company takes away these options. If there was no piracy(or at least less), you can bet more companies would be leaving in the ability to run custom servers.



I think that all the mods and new maps keeps the PC gamer happy and playing the same games for years. Game developers don’t want that. They want you buying new games or buying their Expansions and new Maps. This is only the start. The flexibility of PC gaming as we know it is being killed off.



Why not just go the whole hog and drop mouse support too? Make us use MW limited edition gamepads at £50 each.

The multiplayer in CoD doesn't appeal to me (TF2 is my game) but I know how pissed off I'd be if Valve pulled this shit.



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Jereel Hunter said:
noname2200 said:
Pharaoh said:
Well I bet most of those guys who signed that petition are cheaters and pirates. I have no sympathy for cheaters, play the game as it was intended. If you want to mod the game, become a developer and make the game you want and mod it as much as you want.

These developers and publishers put so much time and money into a product, just to see it destroyed or given away for free at the expense of the general public who just want to play the game as it was designed.

That's one hell of an opinion you have there.

It's wrong in every possible way, mind you, but I applaud you for being willing to wave it in public. I certainly wouldn't have the courage required to out myself like this.

He's not wrong about most of the guys signing the petition being pirates. I'd wager the grand majority of those signing would not have purchased the copy at retail anyway. As a primarily PC gamer, I play lots of games on custom servers, and anytime someone in our group says something like "hey lets play on " a couple of guys say they can't, their copy isn't legal. It's a rampant issue, and it's the pirates fault, not the company, that the company takes away these options. If there was no piracy(or at least less), you can bet more companies would be leaving in the ability to run custom servers.

I wasn't referring to that portion of his post, I was referring to the part about modders and modding. It betrays an appalling ignorance.

Although I do now take issue with that assertion. It's painting with far too broad a brush. Lots of legitimate players, including the most devoted and "hardcore" fans of PC games, often create their own servers just to maximize their enjoyment of the game, and to form specific, close-knit communities. This behavior elongates the title's lifespan. I won't dispute that many pirates are out there, and that this will harm them specifically, but it will also damage legitimate consumers. It's throwing the baby out with the bath water.



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I wasn't planning on buying it in the first place, but comments like this certainly don't help their case.



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This is all about money.

There are so many people out there with illegal copies its shameful. If IW makes everyone play on their servers they will run checks and make sure that your running a legit copy. Not to mention if you get caught cheating you can't just go to one of the 8888003030303 other servers out there and terrorize those people. So if you get caught you buy another copy of the game if you want to come back. Either way you pay them their fair share.

Does this suck for the ones of us who enjoy having their own server or who like to play custom maps? Damnd strait it does. But you don't have to put all of the blame toward IW or activision. If I made the game I would be wanting to make life on cheaters and pirates hard as well (just to make that extra buck).



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noname2200 said:
Jereel Hunter said:
noname2200 said:
Pharaoh said:
Well I bet most of those guys who signed that petition are cheaters and pirates. I have no sympathy for cheaters, play the game as it was intended. If you want to mod the game, become a developer and make the game you want and mod it as much as you want.

These developers and publishers put so much time and money into a product, just to see it destroyed or given away for free at the expense of the general public who just want to play the game as it was designed.

That's one hell of an opinion you have there.

It's wrong in every possible way, mind you, but I applaud you for being willing to wave it in public. I certainly wouldn't have the courage required to out myself like this.

He's not wrong about most of the guys signing the petition being pirates. I'd wager the grand majority of those signing would not have purchased the copy at retail anyway. As a primarily PC gamer, I play lots of games on custom servers, and anytime someone in our group says something like "hey lets play on " a couple of guys say they can't, their copy isn't legal. It's a rampant issue, and it's the pirates fault, not the company, that the company takes away these options. If there was no piracy(or at least less), you can bet more companies would be leaving in the ability to run custom servers.

I wasn't referring to that portion of his post, I was referring to the part about modders and modding. It betrays an appalling ignorance.

Although I do now take issue with that assertion. It's painting with far too broad a brush. Lots of legitimate players, including the most devoted and "hardcore" fans of PC games, often create their own servers just to maximize their enjoyment of the game, and to form specific, close-knit communities. This behavior elongates the title's lifespan. I won't dispute that many pirates are out there, and that this will harm them specifically, but it will also damage legitimate consumers. It's throwing the baby out with the bath water.

I'm not questioning that lots of legitimate players enjoy the personal servers/modding capabilities. I'm just saying that the majority who take advantage of it are pirates. It's not throwing the baby out with the bath water - it's unfortunately costing a vocal minority of paying users who would like these features, to prevent te vast majority of vocal complainers who wouldn't be buying the game at all. 100,000 people signed this petition to complain, but I can guarantee you that 75,000 of them have no intention of forking over money for the game with or without the server support.



Jereel Hunter said:
noname2200 said:
Jereel Hunter said:
noname2200 said:
Pharaoh said:
Well I bet most of those guys who signed that petition are cheaters and pirates. I have no sympathy for cheaters, play the game as it was intended. If you want to mod the game, become a developer and make the game you want and mod it as much as you want.

These developers and publishers put so much time and money into a product, just to see it destroyed or given away for free at the expense of the general public who just want to play the game as it was designed.

That's one hell of an opinion you have there.

It's wrong in every possible way, mind you, but I applaud you for being willing to wave it in public. I certainly wouldn't have the courage required to out myself like this.

He's not wrong about most of the guys signing the petition being pirates. I'd wager the grand majority of those signing would not have purchased the copy at retail anyway. As a primarily PC gamer, I play lots of games on custom servers, and anytime someone in our group says something like "hey lets play on " a couple of guys say they can't, their copy isn't legal. It's a rampant issue, and it's the pirates fault, not the company, that the company takes away these options. If there was no piracy(or at least less), you can bet more companies would be leaving in the ability to run custom servers.

I wasn't referring to that portion of his post, I was referring to the part about modders and modding. It betrays an appalling ignorance.

Although I do now take issue with that assertion. It's painting with far too broad a brush. Lots of legitimate players, including the most devoted and "hardcore" fans of PC games, often create their own servers just to maximize their enjoyment of the game, and to form specific, close-knit communities. This behavior elongates the title's lifespan. I won't dispute that many pirates are out there, and that this will harm them specifically, but it will also damage legitimate consumers. It's throwing the baby out with the bath water.

I'm not questioning that lots of legitimate players enjoy the personal servers/modding capabilities. I'm just saying that the majority who take advantage of it are pirates. It's not throwing the baby out with the bath water - it's unfortunately costing a vocal minority of paying users who would like these features, to prevent te vast majority of vocal complainers who wouldn't be buying the game at all. 100,000 people signed this petition to complain, but I can guarantee you that 75,000 of them have no intention of forking over money for the game with or without the server support.

Surely moving the the game to Steam is enough to stop the vast majority of online pirates. You have to log on to steam to play.

Saying that 75% of those against this are pirates is also quite the exaggeration.  I suspect all those involved in renting out dedicated servers are very bothered, along with those who rent the servers from them.  Then there's everyone in every PC FPS clan who was looking forward to the game, I also know forums with their own dedicated servers for certain FPS games, even magazine publications and all of the members who use their servers.



Spiteful49 said:
I think that all the mods and new maps keeps the PC gamer happy and playing the same games for years. Game developers don’t want that. They want you buying new games or buying their Expansions and new Maps. This is only the start. The flexibility of PC gaming as we know it is being killed off.

This is not true, mods increase the sales appeal of PC games AND will definitely help the sales of future expansion packs. Mods helps BOTH Game sales and Expansion sales.

However, mods hurt DLC because DLC are basically priced mods. DLC is priced, yet it is crap compared to many free mods out there.