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AlkamistStar on 16 October 2009

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Avinash_Tyagi on 16 October 2009
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
Sony are breaking even on the 120GB slim, and making profit with software and on the PSP, PSPGO & Playstation 2 + all there software
and the introduction of the 250GB Slim which they make money on

Microsoft talking out there ass again i see lol

No they aren't

Slim hardware is losing money

http://kotaku.com/5344701/sony-losing-money-on-ps3-slim

 


      I think that will be offset by the 250 gig model.  Can you imagine how well PS3 would be selling if they bring the 120 down to $250 when the 250 gig comes out?

Another PS3 price cut, lol


      I don't think it would be that funny for the other consoles.  It would put PS3 back within $50.00 of Wii, the price difference that existed before Nintendo saw how successful the PS3 was at being at $299 and caused Nintendo to have to lower the Wii's price in response, so they would have to lower the Wii's price by another $50.00 and that would mess up the pricing strategy they have for their handhelds, and the 360 has shown that even with a $199 Arcade and a $299 Elite they can't beat the PS3 worldwide, so if Sony brought the PS3 down to $250 and had even stronger sales, Microsoft would have to lower their prices even more to keep up.

     Is it really a win for Microsoft if at the end they have to bring the Arcade down to $100 to guarantee a win?  I don't think that would look too good to their investors.

 

 

Nintendo didn't lower their price in response to the PS3 slim, they lowered it in response to slowing sales and the concern that they wouldn't hit their targets, that was well before the PS3 slim was announced, in fact slim sales didn't affect the Wii at all, Wii kept selling around 180-190K a week



 

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Chairman-Mao on 16 October 2009
Jereel Hunter said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Xoj said:
ramses01 said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Lol big talk considering the PS3 has beat 360 by over 900,000 units since the PS3 price cut. I could see PS3 beating 360 by 100k per week from November until Christmas


You must not be paying attention.  The 360 will outsell the PS3 by probably at least 200K for the rest of year, most likely closer to 500K.

wait what? who is making that miracle? that will not happen unless they give them away from free.

Yeah I was about to say the same thing. Did Microsoft just announce Halo 4? Or did they cut the price to $150? I must have missed something big because last I checked the PS3 wasn't slowing down any.

It is in the US. Check the numbers, 360 outsold the PS3 in the US once again. Sure Others and Japan are the PS3's for now, but these US is untouchable by Sony.

Others is a bigger market then the US and currently PS3 is dominating others. I don't see the PS3 slowing down until 360 does something big.



ramses01 on 16 October 2009
Chairman-Mao said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Xoj said:
ramses01 said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Lol big talk considering the PS3 has beat 360 by over 900,000 units since the PS3 price cut. I could see PS3 beating 360 by 100k per week from November until Christmas


You must not be paying attention.  The 360 will outsell the PS3 by probably at least 200K for the rest of year, most likely closer to 500K.

wait what? who is making that miracle? that will not happen unless they give them away from free.

Yeah I was about to say the same thing. Did Microsoft just announce Halo 4? Or did they cut the price to $150? I must have missed something big because last I checked the PS3 wasn't slowing down any.

It is in the US. Check the numbers, 360 outsold the PS3 in the US once again. Sure Others and Japan are the PS3's for now, but these US is untouchable by Sony.

Others is a bigger market then the US and currently PS3 is dominating others. I don't see the PS3 slowing down until 360 does something big.

Others and Japan combined aren't nearly half as important as the US for things that matter to gamers, namely games.



Carl on 16 October 2009
ramses01 said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Xoj said:
ramses01 said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Lol big talk considering the PS3 has beat 360 by over 900,000 units since the PS3 price cut. I could see PS3 beating 360 by 100k per week from November until Christmas


You must not be paying attention.  The 360 will outsell the PS3 by probably at least 200K for the rest of year, most likely closer to 500K.

wait what? who is making that miracle? that will not happen unless they give them away from free.

Yeah I was about to say the same thing. Did Microsoft just announce Halo 4? Or did they cut the price to $150? I must have missed something big because last I checked the PS3 wasn't slowing down any.

It is in the US. Check the numbers, 360 outsold the PS3 in the US once again. Sure Others and Japan are the PS3's for now, but these US is untouchable by Sony.

Others is a bigger market then the US and currently PS3 is dominating others. I don't see the PS3 slowing down until 360 does something big.

Others and Japan combined aren't nearly half as important as the US for things that matter to gamers, namely games.

That statement is only true for the 360.

Everything else, Others + Japan > America



                            

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leo-j on 16 October 2009
ramses01 said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Xoj said:
ramses01 said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Lol big talk considering the PS3 has beat 360 by over 900,000 units since the PS3 price cut. I could see PS3 beating 360 by 100k per week from November until Christmas


You must not be paying attention.  The 360 will outsell the PS3 by probably at least 200K for the rest of year, most likely closer to 500K.

wait what? who is making that miracle? that will not happen unless they give them away from free.

Yeah I was about to say the same thing. Did Microsoft just announce Halo 4? Or did they cut the price to $150? I must have missed something big because last I checked the PS3 wasn't slowing down any.

It is in the US. Check the numbers, 360 outsold the PS3 in the US once again. Sure Others and Japan are the PS3's for now, but these US is untouchable by Sony.

Others is a bigger market then the US and currently PS3 is dominating others. I don't see the PS3 slowing down until 360 does something big.

Others and Japan combined aren't nearly half as important as the US for things that matter to gamers, namely games.

Are you kidding me?



 

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Alby_da_Wolf on 16 October 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:

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Nintendo didn't lower their price in response to the PS3 slim, they lowered it in response to slowing sales and the concern that they wouldn't hit their targets, that was well before the PS3 slim was announced, in fact slim sales didn't affect the Wii at all, Wii kept selling around 180-190K a week

I quite agree, Wii and PS3 look almost independent, Wii didn't fall from its previous average when PS3 Slim was released and PS3 even managed to have a small increase, due to a positive balance between normal fall after launch spike and boost from game release, even the same week Wii had its cut. It's quite likely Wii and PS3 are seen as products different enough to not really compete directly.



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nightsurge on 16 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
nightsurge said:
ShadowSoldier said:
nightsurge said:
ShadowSoldier said:
If Microsoft doesn't drop the price when Natal drops or package NATAL with a 360 plus a price drop then they're getting outsold with the PS3 over taking the 360's lead by Winter 2010. Believe that

Nah, even then it'd still take the PS3 at minimum until Holidays 2011 to overtake the 360's lead.  And that's assuming it maintains 90k+ average weekly sales over the 360 for the entirety until then, which isn't likely.

With its current momentum it looks like the PS3 will be selling 200k+ for a good long while. Especially with it's heavy hitters coming out next year.

Meh, not really.  After about January or February it will drop down to 175k or less per week, then keep dropping as it nears summer just like last year.  Overall the average of the 52 weeks would be less than 90k weekly advantage.  To overtake the 360's lead by next winter it would need to outsell the 360 by like 135k+ each week, which won't happen, sorry.

What's really funny, is that most people thougth it would be below 175k right now, heck... People thought it would be there on its 3rd week after the pricecut. And look what happened there.

PS3 Q1/Q2 lineup of games has enough quality and selling potential to keep sales up. There is no reason why games like Final Fantasy 13, God of War 3 and most of all Gran Turismo 5 can't provide boost's good enough to keep it in the ~200k range.

I guess we'll see.  But I highly doubt anything other than FF in Japan will have much affect on console sales for more than a week or two.



Carl on 16 October 2009
nightsurge said:
Carl2291 said:
nightsurge said:
ShadowSoldier said:
nightsurge said:
ShadowSoldier said:
If Microsoft doesn't drop the price when Natal drops or package NATAL with a 360 plus a price drop then they're getting outsold with the PS3 over taking the 360's lead by Winter 2010. Believe that

Nah, even then it'd still take the PS3 at minimum until Holidays 2011 to overtake the 360's lead.  And that's assuming it maintains 90k+ average weekly sales over the 360 for the entirety until then, which isn't likely.

With its current momentum it looks like the PS3 will be selling 200k+ for a good long while. Especially with it's heavy hitters coming out next year.

Meh, not really.  After about January or February it will drop down to 175k or less per week, then keep dropping as it nears summer just like last year.  Overall the average of the 52 weeks would be less than 90k weekly advantage.  To overtake the 360's lead by next winter it would need to outsell the 360 by like 135k+ each week, which won't happen, sorry.

What's really funny, is that most people thougth it would be below 175k right now, heck... People thought it would be there on its 3rd week after the pricecut. And look what happened there.

PS3 Q1/Q2 lineup of games has enough quality and selling potential to keep sales up. There is no reason why games like Final Fantasy 13, God of War 3 and most of all Gran Turismo 5 can't provide boost's good enough to keep it in the ~200k range.

I guess we'll see.  But I highly doubt anything other than FF in Japan will have much affect on console sales for more than a week or two.

Do you mean that Final Fantasy 13 in Japan is the only system seller PS3 has left WW? Or only for Japan?



                            

nightsurge on 16 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
nightsurge said:
Carl2291 said:
nightsurge said:
ShadowSoldier said:
nightsurge said:
ShadowSoldier said:
If Microsoft doesn't drop the price when Natal drops or package NATAL with a 360 plus a price drop then they're getting outsold with the PS3 over taking the 360's lead by Winter 2010. Believe that

Nah, even then it'd still take the PS3 at minimum until Holidays 2011 to overtake the 360's lead.  And that's assuming it maintains 90k+ average weekly sales over the 360 for the entirety until then, which isn't likely.

With its current momentum it looks like the PS3 will be selling 200k+ for a good long while. Especially with it's heavy hitters coming out next year.

Meh, not really.  After about January or February it will drop down to 175k or less per week, then keep dropping as it nears summer just like last year.  Overall the average of the 52 weeks would be less than 90k weekly advantage.  To overtake the 360's lead by next winter it would need to outsell the 360 by like 135k+ each week, which won't happen, sorry.

What's really funny, is that most people thougth it would be below 175k right now, heck... People thought it would be there on its 3rd week after the pricecut. And look what happened there.

PS3 Q1/Q2 lineup of games has enough quality and selling potential to keep sales up. There is no reason why games like Final Fantasy 13, God of War 3 and most of all Gran Turismo 5 can't provide boost's good enough to keep it in the ~200k range.

I guess we'll see.  But I highly doubt anything other than FF in Japan will have much affect on console sales for more than a week or two.

Do you mean that Final Fantasy 13 in Japan is the only system seller PS3 has left WW? Or only for Japan?

I mean it's the only major system seller. Other games may boost it for a week or two, but FF in Japan is the only thing left that will make a huge boost for any console.