YESSSS!

That is the way its been thus far when it comes to Forza and GT. GT looks better but Forza has better physics.

Yeah, you can even hit up on the dpad during a race to see what calculations it's running as well.

regardless of the truth, one cannot deny that that is a whole lotta talk. typically people only talk that much when they are trying to convince others and themselves of something. when you are the best you tend to know you're the best...hence you don't need to auto-fellate quite so much.

I never searched before for GPL physics update, I was guessing something around 120Hz, but actually it was more than double, back in 1998 it already did 288Hz, I'm not surprised it's so good and still so respected even more than 10yrs later.

How many threads have you seen on this site alone regarding FM3 because of these quotes.  At the end of the day the guys have built up a huge internet hype regarding this game, people will ignore the haters and true gamers will buy based on reviews not some PR quotes.  There is nobody but GT and Sony fans not going to buy this game just because they've been cocky regarding their game.  I've read some right tripe from many Sony first party devs over the last few years but it's funny how you and many others sharing your view don't call them out for being arrogant.  A lot of you guys even stood by Crazy Ken's arrogance.

Finally, the best aren't always the quiet smug ones.  Alex Ferguson, arguably one of the greatest ever managers in footbal is never shy about opening his mouth, same with Jose Mourinho.

This. So many GT fans never REALLY understood why many PC gamers would tell you GT1, 2 or 3 or 4 or 5P was arcadey. Purely because PC sims have been doing between 300-420 hertz physics updates for ages. Why is this so important.

Explanation time:

If you have a bump in the road, lets say a sleeping police for arguements sake. It's 1 ft wide. At 138 miles an hour in a game which is 120hertz like NFS Shift or Gran Turismo 5P it is possible the game will simulate it as a competely normalflat piece of track. Why? Because at the speed it updates the physics it works out roughly that it's every 1.3 ft. So 120 Hertz at 138 miles an hour lets the game simulate every 1.3ft in the game, missing any bumps in the road that could affect handling between physics refresh times.

Thats why in a game with 360 hertz at the same speedwill update every 3.9 inches. So will react to more bumps in the road leading to  more realistic driving experience. This further applies to things like aerodynamics or tyre flex/deformation. The higher the physics refresh rates the more exact the physics simulation can be.

@ selnor:

That certainly seems to be the case. You been playing the demo for Forza 3 a lot? There are parts on that circuit, that especially if you're in the Audi or Porshe, will literally have you bounce off the track due to dips in the surface. Pretty cool, but makes staying on the track difficult.

Yeah I noticed it alot. Although Forza 2 had 360hrtz, what really makes the difference in Forza 3 is extensively modeled roads. Proffesional Le Mans drivers said of Forza 3 that they have the smallest bumps all in their rightful places. Right where it should be.

I just got back from The Nurburgring and I can't wait to try it our on FM3. I hope they got all the bumps and divots right this time. FM2 Nurburg was way too smooth.