Indeed the standards for PC games are a bit higher (about 3% or so). That still means that even those PC reviewers were pleased more with game like Mass Effect, Oblivion and Fallout 3 than with Witcher or Neverwinter Nights 2.

NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer has easily the best writing in the last 5 years, not far from the Planescape: Torment quality level (and PS:T has the best writing and story in a videogame ever).

Mount & Blade has the most realistic combat I've ever played in my life. It trumps pretty much any RPG in terms of combat.

King's Bounty: The Legend, probably the best SRPG in ages. I can't think of a PC SRPG that's better than King's Bounty off the top of my head.

What were the decent console exclusive WRPGs? Only Fable 2. All 3 games I mentioned above are better than Fable 2... 4 if you include The Witcher.

I love how every time the question of graphics come into play, PC gamers talk about Crysis.

OK, Crysis has the best graphics out of any game currently out. Agreed. And if you have a super machine, you can play that beast to look much better than any console game.

But can we use 1 game as the reason we say PC graphics are REALLY starting to outpace consoles? NO. How about this for a change: PC fans, give me 5-10 games that look like Crysis. Never mind, you can't do that (obviously if it is the best). Give me 5-10 games that look on par or better than:

1. Killzone 2.
2. MGS4.
3. Gears of War 2.
4. Uncharted 2.
5. Lost Odyssey.
6. Gran Turismo 5.
7. Forza 3.
8. Fight Night Round 4.

All this is assuming you have a PC that can handle games that look that good. There is no doubt that PC is more powerful than consoles, but there is a reason console gaming has become so popular. Buying a console means that you will be playing games that are optimized for the hardware that you are using. Every single PS3 owner will see Killzone 2 in all its glory. 90% of the people who have played Crysis have played it on a setting which looks like a joke compared to Killzone 2.

Again, show me 5 games, I will agree that PC is REALLY starting to outpace consoles. But as it stands, consoles currently have the best looking games available, with a couple of exceptions.

Really?! Well, let's go through my list step-by-step:

Plants vs Zombies - It's freaking Popcap!! Had the best launch ever for a Popcap game, and will easily go over 10 millions. It will reach 5 millions.

The Sims 3 - Duh. It will reach 5 millions.

Dawn of Discovery - I rushed on this one. It will probably sell between 2 or 3 million. It will not reach 5 million.

Aion Online - Huge hype? Check. Big pre-orders? Check. Great Launch? Check. Great reviews? Check. After considering all this, is it an MMO? Double Check. It will reach 5 millions.

WoW: Wrath of the Lich King - Duh. It has reached 5 millions.

WoW: The Burning Crusade - Duh. It has reached 5 millions.

Fallout 3 - Bethesda + Fallout = Being sold for atleast 15 years on retail/digital. It dominated all PC Top Charts when it came out. It is still selling well. It will reach 5 millions.

Spore - Duh. It will reach 5 millions.

Call of Duty 4 - Dominated Retail and Digital Charts for almost a year, and was always on Steam's Top Ten until early 2009. It still shows up in top charts, including steam. And it never even dropped price! It has reached 5 millions.

The Orange Box - Duh. It will reach 5 millions, if it hasn't already.

Team Fortress 2 - Just like any Valve game it will have insane lifetime, but TF2 is always being updated and improved, with sales also increasing in each update. It is a monster. It will reach 5 millions.

Peggle Deluxe - It's freaking Popcap!! It has reached 5 millions.

So 11 of the games I just mentioned are poised to be over 5 millions. The fact that you don't even know Popcap, and how COD4 dominated on PC, and how Aion is dominating on PC...

Look, games that are multiplatform and are on both PC and consoles actually look superior to most of the games on that list when played on a half-decent PC. Play Fallout 3 (especially with the user created texture mods), CoD4/5, Far Cry 2, GTAIV on a half-decent PC and the raw power will trounce the games you just listed. Shove the graphics and effects up to high, up the AA, AF and the resolution and there is no real contest. The native texture res on the PC tends to be higher too and they allow for more effects. I haven't even mentioned Cryostasis (the game is crap, but a lot of the power is spent on PhysX stuff the consoles would find impossible to acheive with the same level of detail).

You can argue that artistically these games are superior, but in terms of raw effects and power, even multiplatform games typically look better than nearly all console exculsives, including those listed. I say this as a PC gamer that owns all the current gen consoles, and a somewhat dated PC.

And I doubt that most of PC gamers that bought Crysis played it on the low settings like you seem to be suggesting considering its a game that was hyped for its high graphics and system requirements. Most who bought it would have had that in mind. I think your deluding yourself if you think that Killzone 2 graphics look better than 90% of the people that played Crysis. You could always argue that not everyone with a PS3 played on an HDTV so 50% of the people that played Killzone 2 played with graphics at a res PC gamers had easily surpassed in 1999.

Just off the top of my head-

Empire Total War

Dawn of War 2

Resident Evil 5

Street Fighter 4

Fallout 3 and Oblivion with the hi-res mods

Mass Effect

As with just about any multi-platform game, all look far better on PC than console- the PC versions of SF4 and RE5 are widely regarded as the definitive versions and the first two games are PC exclusive. I don't play racing games, but I'd be very surprised if Grid and Dirt were far superior as well. None of them require more than a reasonable processor and an £80+ graphics card.

ARMA 2, Dawn Of War II, and Empire: Total War are better looking than those titles you mentioned, if you max out the graphics. Also, since you listed two games that aren't even out yet, I will list two DX 11 games that will probably surpass any game on your list; Dirt 2 and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call Of Pripyat.

Don't forget DemiGod, Sins of a Solar Empire, Eve Online, and Final Fantasy 11.

I think perpride has just been pwned...

Yeah I just listed things I could think of off the top of my head, I am sure there are more if you research them. Another thing to consider is that all the shooters perpride listed are glorified corridor shooters; while games like Crysis and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. look better than them AND are open world.