slowmo said: alanshearer said: Cypher1980 said: Christhegamer said: I totally agree with the BBC, Sony do have a problem with the PS3 and the sooner it is covered with a extended warrany the better... I say that if it is less then 1% it will not cost them very much. Also I wrote to watchdog about 2 weeks ago to explain what happened to my PS3.. I hope this is because of me and my PS3... because when I was on my second reapir I called Sony and said I would write to them and make as much noise as I could.. Lets hope the little man has been heard Good for you Chris So many people on these forums seem to think that a console breaking after 24 months is par for the course. Its just this type of drop trousers and touch toes attitude that lets big companies get away with poor QA. I honestly cannot understand the attitude of some people on these forums. For the record and I appreciate its a difficult concept for fanboys everywhere. --------------------------------------------------------------------- You own a video console. You paid good money for it. You didnt invent the sodding thing and the companies dont deserve your mis placed loyalty. You fanboys should grow a brain. By the BBC's own reporting 0.5% of PS3's fail. It was a stitchup by the BBC nothing more. 0.5% just for YLOD supposedly that doesn't include all other faults.  Try growing a brain yourself and some manners wouldn't go amiss...

Thats true... but the issue here was YLOD, not "Oh crap i droped my PS3 down some stairs"-failurs. So a brain for xmas might due you some good aswell.

MAFKKA said: slowmo said: alanshearer said: Cypher1980 said: Christhegamer said: I totally agree with the BBC, Sony do have a problem with the PS3 and the sooner it is covered with a extended warrany the better... I say that if it is less then 1% it will not cost them very much. Also I wrote to watchdog about 2 weeks ago to explain what happened to my PS3.. I hope this is because of me and my PS3... because when I was on my second reapir I called Sony and said I would write to them and make as much noise as I could.. Lets hope the little man has been heard Good for you Chris So many people on these forums seem to think that a console breaking after 24 months is par for the course. Its just this type of drop trousers and touch toes attitude that lets big companies get away with poor QA. I honestly cannot understand the attitude of some people on these forums. For the record and I appreciate its a difficult concept for fanboys everywhere. --------------------------------------------------------------------- You own a video console. You paid good money for it. You didnt invent the sodding thing and the companies dont deserve your mis placed loyalty. You fanboys should grow a brain. By the BBC's own reporting 0.5% of PS3's fail. It was a stitchup by the BBC nothing more. 0.5% just for YLOD supposedly that doesn't include all other faults.  Try growing a brain yourself and some manners wouldn't go amiss... Thats true... but the issue here was YLOD, not "Oh crap i droped my PS3 down some stairs"-failurs. So a brain for xmas might due you some good aswell.

though i do find it funny....

 Iain Lee (construct of this specific report)

works for MSN writing a gaming column and recording podcasts.

You should have noticed in the vid that one of their "experts" works freelance on a Microsoft Xbox 360 blog... c'mon, that one was obvious.

MS please find the dirt..find the dirt at what ever cost.../

The BBC is the least biased news organisation in the world. It has no commercial motive to distort the truth; Watchdog normally does a great public service reporting on everything else.

If they got it wrong it would be unintentionally, through lack of research. Still, there are an unacceptably high number (even 2% is too much by normal electronics standards) of YLOD failures and since they all happen the same way without customer fault it must be a design flaw. The UK has strong consmer protection laws for this kind of thing and Sony will be forced to grant refunds or free repair if it comes to it.

Sony is really stupid to try and sue the BBC. It doesn't work; this isn't America.

Suggesting the presenter is biased is totally ridiculous. The BBC is a very respectable organization and wouldn't allow petty bias's get in it's way. Also, I highly doubt this presenter guy did the research or whatever, he's just a presenter who probably reads from a script. Never diss the BBC, epsecially Americans, it's just stupid. The beed is a brilliant organization and it doesn't hate sony or something, stop being so childish. Also, this case would never get to court in the UK.

did you not see who presented this:

 Iain Lee (construct of this specific report)

works for MSN writing a gaming column and recording podcasts.

You should have noticed in the vid that one of their "experts" works freelance on a Microsoft Xbox 360 blog... c'mon, that one was obvious.

MS please find the dirt..find the dirt at what ever cost.../

just so happens to work for MS....lol

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Fanboys are pathetic. They see conspiracy every where and it somehow always comes from the "competing" console.

I agree with asacatman 100%

Come on, it's not about conspiracy. It's called "conflict of interest". Any impartial report would use someone credentialed and without such a blatant conflict of interest.

It's not a question that it's against the PS3. If it was the other way around and they had a story about the 360 RRoD being anchored by a well known Sony column writer, don't you think the same reaction would occur?

There is conspiracy, and there is "conflict of interest". This story, is obviously the second. If a person cannot see this then they are probably the "hidden" fanboi because it is that obvious.

As far as Watchdog's credibility goes? I bet the producer has no idea about fanboi culture and was totally ignorant to the conflict of interest. At least, I hope so.

This.

Inherent fault makes no sense, I have a release 60 gb, it has run a lot, stayed on for hours and hours. It definitely not become that hot, not hot enough to desolder anything. Its not enclose and its in vertical position, just do that and youll have no problems. The following is taken from sony precaution in the first pages of the user manual. I would be willing to bet that nearly all the person having problems did not do that and thats why SOny dont want to pay:

Do not block any vents. To maintain good ventilation, follow the guidelines below:

- Place the system AT LEAST 10 CM (4 INCH) away from a wall surface
- Do not place on a carpet or rug
- Do not place in a narrow or cramped place
- Do not cover with cloth
- Do not allow dust to build up on the vents

Use and handling:

-Do not expose the system to high temperature, high humidity or direct sunlight.

Do that and youll have no problems, BBC should have educated people to read their user manual instead of bullshitting.

Why are u guys defending Sony? If there is a problem and Sony have to give out free repairs isn't that a GOOD thing? It should benefit YOU..