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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 September 2009
AvZeroMkA157 said:
Looks like Namco, Microsoft, and Sony all benefited one way or another.

Namco saved money on development costs.

Microsoft more than doubled their fan base in Japan.

Sony still got the game without much effort.

On the other hand, a lot of JRPG fans sure got screwed over...

Hmmmmm.....I wonder how many Japanese people will be throwing out their 360's now that the PS3 cut its price now. Everything Microsoft ever gained is irrelevant now.



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Carl on 15 September 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
alekth said:
AvZeroMkA157 said:
Looks like Namco, Microsoft, and Sony all benefited one way or another.

Namco saved money on development costs.

Microsoft more than doubled their fan base in Japan.

Sony still got the game without much effort.

On the other hand, a lot of JRPG fans sure got screwed over...

That's pretty wise... too bad I'm in the last group :/ (I did cave in and bought a 360 for that game too)

 

As for Sony paying for the extra content, no reason to. Sony will make some money from the licensing. Some more units sold to the fans. Namco is still getting the majority of the profits from that game. Up to them whether they want to make it, but obviously it's worth the extra revenue (and the extra not-killing-your-franchise-in-Japan factor).
MS paid for the exclusivity, Namco accepted the cash. Come on, it's not like it was impossible to develop for the PS3 at the time, it was just easier and in this case a lot more profitable not to.

 

edit: @S.T.A.G.E. There are a lot of game from 3rd party studios for which neither MS nor Sony paid anything. There is no need to pay at all, the studio makes the games to profit from them, they should expect their revenue from there. MS decided that it was good to pay to receive the special treatment, and got what they paid for.
Now Namco wants to sell a year old game at full price, WHY shouldn't Sony demand extra content (for one it stops the game becoming more harm than good to the console for being a late port,, messy seconds), for another it's good for the fans to have the extra content.
It's Namco wanting the special treatment here, not Sony. They have to do the extra work/take the extra cost. And it's pretty certain they will manage to cover it.

I understand where you're coming from, but you're not getting what I am saying. Microsoft paid for special treatment, so why doesn't Sony. Sony has their fingers around Japan like the Yakuza. This is why they get special treatment with JRPG's without having to pay like Microsoft would. It is a double edged sword in this business that Japan only seems to play a part in.

Why should Sony pay for it if they have waited a year for the game itself?



                            

outlawauron on 15 September 2009
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
Darth Tigris said:
People can say what they want about MS in this scenario, but it sounds like they did what they had to do to get JRPG's on the 360. And there are many 360 owners that are grateful for it.

There are also plenty a tiny minority of idiots who are pissed off that PS3 gets the much slightly better version.

fixed

lol.

The PS3 version of Tales is better is so many ways. Sony had a policy about late ports since day one. Every late port much have extra content.



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outlawauron on 15 September 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
alekth said:
SO4 port is already confirmed.

Well, for the PS3 version I'm not really surprised, extra content is Sony's policy for porting and it makes good sense especially since it's a late port.

And I don't have a gram of sympathy for Namco, first they picked the path of least resistence with making it xbox360 exclusive for a year, then they put for the game what has to be the most pathetic DLC ever.

Thats not the point. Sony not paying for the extra content in their version is the problem whilst allowing Microsoft to cover their ends. Thats very bad business.

How is it bad business? Sony gets a better product for no extra money? If So4 has near the amount of changes Tales has, then it's near guaranteed to outsell the 360 version.



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Nightwish224 on 15 September 2009

Hey if a company wants to spend money on me, I'm fine with that. I like getting games first. This gives me more time to play others.



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MonstaMack on 15 September 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
AvZeroMkA157 said:
Looks like Namco, Microsoft, and Sony all benefited one way or another.

Namco saved money on development costs.

Microsoft more than doubled their fan base in Japan.

Sony still got the game without much effort.

On the other hand, a lot of JRPG fans sure got screwed over...

Hmmmmm.....I wonder how many Japanese people will be throwing out their 360's now that the PS3 cut its price now. Everything Microsoft ever gained is irrelevant now.

So I'm guessing Magna Carta 2 will be on the PS3 a year from now as well?



It's just that simple.

darthdevidem01 on 15 September 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
AvZeroMkA157 said:
Looks like Namco, Microsoft, and Sony all benefited one way or another.

Namco saved money on development costs.

Microsoft more than doubled their fan base in Japan.

Sony still got the game without much effort.

On the other hand, a lot of JRPG fans sure got screwed over...

Hmmmmm.....I wonder how many Japanese people will be throwing out their 360's now that the PS3 cut its price now. Everything Microsoft ever gained is irrelevant now.

Still Sakaguchi games are left



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MonstaMack on 15 September 2009
Nightwish224 said:
Hey if a company wants to spend money on me, I'm fine with that. I like getting games first. This gives me more time to play others.

This.

Of course waiting helps to. I'm sure Star Ocean will be cheap soon enough (TOV was $15 at Amazon and $20 at a lot of places over the last few months. Is it worth paying $40+ more, waiting even longer, and buying another system for? It seems a lot of people on here think so.)



It's just that simple.

outlawauron on 15 September 2009
MonstaMack said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
AvZeroMkA157 said:
Looks like Namco, Microsoft, and Sony all benefited one way or another.

Namco saved money on development costs.

Microsoft more than doubled their fan base in Japan.

Sony still got the game without much effort.

On the other hand, a lot of JRPG fans sure got screwed over...

Hmmmmm.....I wonder how many Japanese people will be throwing out their 360's now that the PS3 cut its price now. Everything Microsoft ever gained is irrelevant now.

So I'm guessing Magna Carta 2 will be on the PS3 a year from now as well?

It seems highly likely.



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Euphoria14 on 15 September 2009

Sony had this policy since day 1 and we cry about it now?



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