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aragod on 23 September 2009
pterodactyl said:
Attoyou said:
Love how 360 fanboys pretend the PS3 is a failure just because 360 barley manages to outsell it :P Always Funny.

But if thats the case, after what the PS2 did to the Xbox, The entire Xbox Brand is a FAIL
Same with the Zune and ipod.

People don't call the PS3 a failure because it's in third place in sales. People call it that because it's lost its company billions of dollars.

Then we should be glad, that Sony is such a big company, that this loss really won't affect them.



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mario64 on 23 September 2009
pterodactyl said:
Attoyou said:
Love how 360 fanboys pretend the PS3 is a failure just because 360 barley manages to outsell it :P Always Funny.

But if thats the case, after what the PS2 did to the Xbox, The entire Xbox Brand is a FAIL
Same with the Zune and ipod.

People don't call the PS3 a failure because it's in third place in sales. People call it that because it's lost its company billions of dollars.


Xbox 1 and 360 RROD lost MS billions of dollars too.

The playstation business is now profitable, by the way. Whichever way you look at it, it's now MS which is in trouble, not Sony. That's why MS just slashed the elite 360 price twice in a few weeks (first to 299$, now again to 249$).

Being outsold 2:1 like this week on a regular basis by a more expensive competitor would be a terrible performance.

sharky974 on 23 September 2009
mario64 said:
pterodactyl said:
Attoyou said:
Love how 360 fanboys pretend the PS3 is a failure just because 360 barley manages to outsell it :P Always Funny.

But if thats the case, after what the PS2 did to the Xbox, The entire Xbox Brand is a FAIL
Same with the Zune and ipod.

People don't call the PS3 a failure because it's in third place in sales. People call it that because it's lost its company billions of dollars.

Xbox 1 and 360 RROD lost MS billions of dollars too.

The playstation business is now profitable, by the way. Whichever way you look at it, it's now MS which is in trouble, not Sony. That's why MS just slashed the elite 360 price twice in a few weeks (first to 299$, now again to 249$).

Being outsold 2:1 like this week on a regular basis by a more expensive competitor would be a terrible performance.

The Playstation business isn't profitable. That division has lost money the last several qaurters/years. Including the most recent. So until you have any proof it's profitable..it isn't.

 

BTW, Sony is in such bad shape they have to offer free Blu Ray, free wi-fi, and pay for online themselves to get anybody to buy it at the same price as the competitor (360).



sharky974 on 23 September 2009
aragod said:
pterodactyl said:
Attoyou said:
Love how 360 fanboys pretend the PS3 is a failure just because 360 barley manages to outsell it :P Always Funny.

But if thats the case, after what the PS2 did to the Xbox, The entire Xbox Brand is a FAIL
Same with the Zune and ipod.

People don't call the PS3 a failure because it's in third place in sales. People call it that because it's lost its company billions of dollars.

Then we should be glad, that Sony is such a big company, that this loss really won't affect them.

AHAHAHA.

 

It hurts them twenty times as much as a company like MS, that MAKES tons of money outside video games. While Sony has LOST money as a total corporation JUST because of videogames many times.

 

When Sony loses money in videogames it really hurts them and often causes the whole company to lose money. MS as a whole is always hugely profitable even when they lose money in VG.

 

You guys sure have strange sources of info, as you sure dont have any of the facts right..



mario64 on 23 September 2009

@sharky : Kaz Hiraï has stated multiple times that PS3 Playstation BUSINESS as a whole (PS3 hardware / PS3 software / PS3 peripherals) was already profitable, even last year. Go check it then you'll stop spreading lies. http://news.spong.com/article/19015/Kaz-Hirai-PS3-Platform-Profitable-Since-Last-Year

MS WAS successful in the past, it's a lot less true now.

MS is not in a good situation, unlike what you think :
- on the net, MS is killed by Google (ads revenue).
- in browsers, IE is killed by Firefox and Safari
- in OS : Vista was a complete failure and a lot of people / companies won't upgrade to Windows 7 either. Many PC are now sold with linux
- in Zune business they're killed by Apple products
- in Office Suite, they're losing market shares too to Open Office.

All MS has left is two weakening cash cows (Windows and Office).



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gustave154 on 23 September 2009

At least the PS3 is selling.



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sharky974 on 23 September 2009
mario64 said:
@sharky : Kaz Hiraï has stated multiple times that PS3 Playstation BUSINESS as a whole (PS3 hardware / PS3 software / PS3 peripherals) was already profitable, even last year. Go check it then you'll stop spreading lies. http://news.spong.com/article/19015/Kaz-Hirai-PS3-Platform-Profitable-Since-Last-Year

MS WAS successful in the past, it's a lot less true now.

MS is not in a good situation, unlike what you think :
- on the net, MS is killed by Google (ads revenue).
- in browsers, IE is killed by Firefox and Safari
- in OS : Vista was a complete failure and a lot of people / companies won't upgrade to Windows 7 either. Many PC are now sold with linux
- in Zune business they're killed by Apple products
- in Office Suite, they're losing market shares too to Open Office.

All MS has left is two weakening cash cows (Windows and Office).

What Kaz said was carefully worded..he said on a GROSS profit level. What this means in business terms is not counting many expenses such as employees. You can be sure overall the PS3 isn't profitable. You can also check Sony's financials for proof of that. You seem terribly uneducated about these matters.

 

If MS is in bad shape making 3-4 billion in profit per quarter, I'd hate to see what Sony is according to you, when Sony is LOSING money every quarter. Sony is getting killed in TV's by Samsung and Vizeo, killed by Apple everywhere else.  Walkman used to be the standard now kids dont even know what a Walkman is they all have iPods. Sony is losing money in every division, not just gaming.

 

BTW MS bing is doing well, Zune HD is revitalized, and their cash cows are not "weakling" and linux is a huge failue..all netbooks used to ship with linux, today MS has 96% market share in netbooks with Windows XP, and Windows 7 is a huge success as is Xbox 360.

 



outlawauron on 23 September 2009
sharky974 said:
mario64 said:
@sharky : Kaz Hiraï has stated multiple times that PS3 Playstation BUSINESS as a whole (PS3 hardware / PS3 software / PS3 peripherals) was already profitable, even last year. Go check it then you'll stop spreading lies. http://news.spong.com/article/19015/Kaz-Hirai-PS3-Platform-Profitable-Since-Last-Year

MS WAS successful in the past, it's a lot less true now.

MS is not in a good situation, unlike what you think :
- on the net, MS is killed by Google (ads revenue).
- in browsers, IE is killed by Firefox and Safari
- in OS : Vista was a complete failure and a lot of people / companies won't upgrade to Windows 7 either. Many PC are now sold with linux
- in Zune business they're killed by Apple products
- in Office Suite, they're losing market shares too to Open Office.

All MS has left is two weakening cash cows (Windows and Office).

What Kaz said was carefully worded..he said on a GROSS profit level. What this means in business terms is not counting many expenses such as employees. You can be sure overall the PS3 isn't profitable. You can also check Sony's financials for proof of that. You seem terribly uneducated about these matters.

 

If MS is in bad shape making 3-4 billion in profit per quarter, I'd hate to see what Sony is according to you, when Sony is LOSING money every quarter. Sony is getting killed in TV's by Samsung and Vizeo, killed by Apple everywhere else.  Walkman used to be the standard now kids dont even know what a Walkman is they all have iPods. Sony is losing money in every division, not just gaming.

 

BTW MS bing is doing well, Zune HD is revitalized, and their cash cows are not "weakling" and linux is a huge failue..all netbooks used to ship with linux, today MS has 96% market share in netbooks with Windows XP, and Windows 7 is a huge success as is Xbox 360.

 

Which include a lot more things than just video games. Good call there.



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sharky974 on 23 September 2009
gustave154 said:
At least the PS3 is selling.

Where, in Siberia?



outlawauron on 23 September 2009
sharky974 said:
gustave154 said:
At least the PS3 is selling.

Where, in Siberia?

Not only are you wrong, you're trolling!



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