I laugh at proud Xbox 360 owners too.

Can we be friends now?

I doubt that will make a difference!
I'm sure every PS3 owner has a PC right?

The CAKE IS A LIE

you know, I don't think Valve is as great as they once use to be, I mean saying that he didn't get into the industry to code on exotic hardware, but rather that he got into the industry to make compelling games...all this is negated by the fact that they created their own high end graphics engine which they've been using and upgrading for years now.

Now it's all well and good to say that they got into the industry to concentrate on gameplay and story and all, and one would assume that it would be in their best interest to simply license an engine so that nearly 90% of the time is spent on game content and gameplay things....but no, oh no, they went a head and built a highly modular graphics engine which is constantly being upgraded, so to say they didn't get into the industry to program high level code is a load of Bullshit.

Their capable of building a proper multiplatform engine no doubt about, the problem is that they missed the boat when the decided to skip the PS3, and further made it worse when Gabe spoke out that the PS3 was essentially shit and worthless.

To say the least it hurt their image some what, and at the end of the day the one thing they really hated about the PS3 was CELL, it's not that the CELL is hard per se, but that they have to essentially change their way of thinking when coding for the PS3, essentially a paradigm shift from sequential processing to parallel processing, which means the engine has to be programed from scratch with this concept in mind, as this is how CELL was designed, and how it can attain a high level of performance, otherwhise the developer is punished with crap performace. The 360 on the other hand doesn't require as much new thinking as the PS3, so they fell more comfortable because they are in the safe with the familiar, but this doesn't mean they are maximising all the available CPU performance of the 360, which is why some developers have said that if they take the time to learn how to efficiently code on the CELL, then they'll see the same benefits on the 360.

The whole Industry is headed that way either way, with intel already planing the release scheduale of 6 - 8 core processors, so designing engines with this new method of thinking will be crucial, and it's hard which is why most if not all developers if given the choice would prefer CPU's to be single core but a with a higher clock frequency, but CPU tech has hit a road block with frequencies because of the heat limitations of Silicon, so multicore is the only way to go in order to increase performance, and as such a new way of programming is required to extract that performance.

Now Valve are fucked, if they try to make a PS3 game, but fail to understand CELL since they have no prior experience, and their game cold turns out crap, not only will their image of a quality game developer be tarnished, but they'll lose mind share as well....and that is something Valve does not want to risk at this stage in the generations life.

But you know what, Valve deserve to be in this fucked up situation, they put them selves there in the 1st place, and I bet you they regret their decisions even if not made public. PS3 24Million install base isn't something they can ignore easily as it would have easily been more profits coming there way if they had made a PS3 game them selves, but ignore it they must in order to maintain their image.

loool mega troll in the house.

Bad controls, well you must know this cause you own a PS3 *rolleyes*

low visual quality, since when does Valve have a next gen engine that uses the power of modern computers ? They're still using the Source Engine from 2004. Half-Life 2 on XBOX was low visual quality. But again you must know that because you have PS3 games *rolleyes*

I'm sure you know better, but I'll say this just in case your are not aware, No their not using the same source engine, the Source Engine since 2004 has gone through many upgrades and it will continue to go through upgrades till it gets overhauled, just because they don't scream about it doesn't mean they haven't been upgrading it, it's just the way things are done.

Sure, but it's still the Source engine and not a complete overhaul.

well high voltage said they do :P.

People forget that they're an independent developer thats primarily focused on pc development. Its a lot simpler to go from pc to 360 then pc to ps3. They already distribute their games physically for the pc and 360 and digitally on steam. Its probably just simpler and more profitable then hiring lots of new people to create the ps3 multi platform release.

Had EA not screwed up the port of the orange box then they probably would still get them to handle the ps3 version, not to mention it sold poorly. In this day and age where one or two bombs makes a company goes bust its probably just a lot safer to save the costs and focus on making the pc and 360 releases as best as possible.

Its a commercial decision and they are a business.

The PS3 takes up a lot more resources and time when developing for it compared to the Direct X based machines.

In turn this allows you to tap the smallest of the three main markets.

It kinda sucks but moaning to Valve wont do a thing. Blame the bods at Sony who decided to pull away from the standard architecture.