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I think the Prediction League is a great feature that brings you some interaction with the numbers the site presents.



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I used to be here for just sales but i have come to really enjoy the community and the news section. Do not fragment the site please. It will split our users and overall just be a bad thing. leave them one site and work on organization of the content better.



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ioi said:

Well this is exactly what it's all about.

My feeling from speaking to non-vgchartz people is that they associate VGChartz as a brand with sales numbers - they won't come here to view news or to look up games.

By making these things more prominent on the homepage and trying to position ourselves as more than just a sales site, the latest feedback is that we're actually losing sight of what the site is supposed to be about so people who visit just see it as a mis-mash of different info and are, if anything, overwhelmed by it all and just leave.

So the issue is how do we integrate, build and promote features like news and the game database without detracting from the sales info and charts that are supposed to be the core focus of the site and should be positioned as such.

The answer might be just to tidy the front page a little, trim down the content and make it easier to read - direct people to the news section, the games section, the forums rather than having it all on the front page itself. Part of the solution might just be to make sure people know that we have all this other content on the site and make it easy to find from the homepage. The idea of physically splitting the site into seperate domains is just one way I think we can focus more on each section.

I like this.

If I had the choice, I'd prefer vgChartz to have a nice, clean, and uncluttered look.  I don't really like the homepage now because it's just so busy.  It just feels like there's so much going on but there's only a few things I'm really interested in.  Most of the time when I want to look up sales, I'd rather just go to Charts and avoid touching the homepage if at all possible... but most of the people coming to vgChartz to look up sales probably go to the homepage.  Maybe putting the focus of the homepage back on sales really would be for the best.

Also, to answer your original question...  I come to vgChartz because this community is the best video game community on the net, bar none.  The members here are quirky but they're polite and they're fun to chat with.  You can have civilized conversations without people getting cussed out for their opinions, you can have intelligent conversations without pointless trolling, and many of the members here have a good sense of humor.  I visit a lot of gaming communities but these are things which I can take for granted here at vgChartz that I can't do the same in many places. 

Even better, almost every day I post here, I learn something new.  I'm motivated to go out and pursue something I don't know much about and as a result I can better follow discussions and then contribute something back myself.  I see the same thing with other members.  I remember the posts from certain members a couple years ago and how corny they were, but today... today they make intelligent points and are interesting participants in discussions that range from video games to sales to completely different subjects.  They've all gained something from being members of the vgChartz community.

Whatever you do with the homepage or the news or whatever, as long as the community remains as excellent as it has been these last years, I will always enjoy my visits.



ioi said:
My thought for the homepage is exactly that - organised vertically as someone suggested earlier.

A large section at the top of the page going right across dedicated to sales, below that some news (but smaller and neater than we have now), below that some game database links and at the bottom the community stuff. Each section will be clearly seperated with a nice big link to their dedicated pages which serve as a mini-homepage for just that section - these would be gamedb.vgchartz.com, news.vgchartz.com etc. By branding each seperately I was thinking something like "VGChartz GameDB" or whatever - so still obviously part of VGC but with a unique identity...

I like this....alot.

This would give users a nice clean, un-cluttered first impression of the site and would obviously show them everything on offer at the same time. One thing I would ask though, Is where are the reviews going to go? I don't see a section that directly links to them, but at the same time I'm not sure whether as a site we are a big enough reviewer to have a separate 'review' section.



@ioi: What about just having 4 main tabs under the VGchartz page; VGChartz Features, VGChartz News, VGChartz Forums, VGChartz game database.

I mean four large, clear (maybe colour coded) tabs with the chart features tab being the default that people will see when they load the page but with the other tabs clear and easily accessible. Clicking on a the tab merely shifts the page you want to look at to the forground.

This way you could streamline the information that is under each tab, the site maintains it's focus by sales being the default tab but once people have checked out the sales info they can tab over into the forums/database or whatever tickles their fancy. By keeping sales the dominant tab and restricting the information displayed to just sales stuff the homepage can have a simple and clean appearance which won't scare people away. The features and DB tabs could contain significantly more content and be more complex because if people click on them it means they are interested in tracking down that information and probably won't mind navigating the more complex layout.

Just a thought.

If i knew how to use photoshop i'd mock something up because it looks really good in my head.



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Just a few big, clean, modern, stylish and rounded rectangular tabs should do the trick.



Okay here's my opinion on all this.

News - I always see news first because VG Chartz is the first website I go to when I come on the computer, but the front page doesn't often give all the news I want to see, in order to do that I have to hit the forums, but the thing is if you tried to get all the news in the front page and if it was something I may be interested in could be easily missed because there's always so much news. I usually go to other websites later on to check all the news.

Sales Articles - This is a very good feature to VG Chartz (which I can thank TheSource for), sinse obvously I'm interested in game sales I really like to read these articles, I like comparing game sales and seeing things that I didn't notice before. But sometimes TheSource sounds a little bias to Nintendo, I'm sure he's not doing it on purpose but I get that vibe off some of his articles some times. Also it'd be nice if instead of just having the Japan Preview, we can do America and Others preview as well.

Weekly Sales Chart - The thing I noticed about VGC 2.0 is that I don't seem to pay attention to the numbers as much as I use to for some reason? I often get confused whether I checked the latest weekly numbers or not, and I never had that problem with old VG Chartz. Maybe because the old chart use to take up a big part of the site so the first thing you saw was basically the numbers, and it was so simple to read because the Japan/Others/America number were all in the front page as well, it's a pretty cool feature how it is now where you can hover over PS3/Wii/X360 and it says everything, but people are lazy and they want things more simple.

Game Database - The game database is one of the best video game databases out there, it's obviously not 100% complete but has basically all the games anyone wants to see. And sinse this is a sales website it has numbers for most of the games as well which is really something I enjoy.

Game Review  - There very well done, I enjoy them, but like I said in the past if more of the scoring system was showed it would be better. Again this is the interenet, all people really want to see are the numbers, basically what IGN has is what I consider perfect, they got there big summary then at the end they have there scoring system split up and each one has a number and then summary of what they think of it, it wouldn't surprise me if 90% of the people that look at there reviews just skip to the end to see what they wrote for each section and what score they put.

Forum - The forum is easily one of the best features of VG Chartz, it has all kinds of different people out there and they make some really wacky or well written thread lol, I have no problem with the forum.

The main problem I have with VGC 2.0 (don't get me wrong it looks much more proffesional now) is it's not as simple as the old VG Chartz was, like I said before I don't like how you can't hover over the top links and just chose what you want instead of going the long way around and having to click the link first then click where you want to go, it's kind of annoying and I'm sure people with dial-up would not injoy this very much. It seems like old VG Chartz was quick and simple, I got what I wanted fast, and isn't that what people what on the internet, they want everything now and right away.

Also I agree that some things seem out of focus, there is quite a bit of stuff and I often find myself moving closer to the screen to see what is written.



The #1 reason I came to VGChartz were for the stats. It was something no other site has which made it unique. However when Update 2.0 came out it got pushed to the side a bit for reviews and other stuff which I already see at every other major gaming site. I still check the forums a lot, but have cut back a bit. Frankly something that turns most people off are the forums on VGchartz. They are not moderated as well as they should be. Every thread should not become a fanboy flame war.



I agree with Gilgamesh on the drop down menus, and the more simplistic charts.



ioi said:
@MontanaHatchet - good points but I wouldn't exactly say we're small Our traffic is now higher than NeoGAF and many other game sites.

That said, I agree that we need to grow the community and attract more people to the site.

 

I don't mean to derail this thread, but I'd like to see some proof that VGC traffic is higher than NeoGAF traffic.

Thanks

On Topic: I visit VGC mostly for the gaming related forums.



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