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sieanr on 03 October 2007
Garcian Smith said:
sieanr said:
Garcian Smith said:
Ehh. Who really uses S-video anymore, anyway?

The majority of the public who doesn't have an HD set


 If you don't have an HD set, then there's not much point to using the video-out feature in the first place. The PSP Slim outputs in standard widescreen, as I recall, so on older TV sets you'll be playing letterboxed games. The main appeal is that the Slim can output in 480p widescreen - something which us HDTV owners will benefit greatly from.

Aside from that, hasn't component-in been standard on even lower-end CRTs for years now? I bought a little $100 flatscreen CRT about a year back, and even that had component-in.


When outputting games, the entire image is cropped to the PSPs native rez - aka much smaller than the actual screen, even if it is HD. So both HD and SD would have severe cropping/letterboxing, although why they dont let SD output games is beyond stupid.

Not to mention the best the PSP can output is 480x640p, aka 4:3 which is not widescreen.

The thing is, they have the cable but wont release it stateside, which is almost as dumb as nintendo only release the GBA player in one color in the US.


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hunter_alien on 04 October 2007

Why would you even want to connect your PSP to a TV if you cant play games ... oh and dont tell me as a reson : ,, for movies " because for that you have a cheap 20$ DVD player in worst case :?



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Morgyn on 04 October 2007

Who the hell uses S-Video, no one. That's why its not included.

Hands up who connects their Wii, 360 or PS3 via S-Video rather than Composite/Component?



tk1797 on 04 October 2007

@Morgyn

I use a s-video connection for my 360.



 

akuma587 on 04 October 2007

If you really want one you can get the cables from Japan or Europe(?).



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Garcian Smith on 04 October 2007
sieanr said:
Garcian Smith said:
sieanr said:
Garcian Smith said:
Ehh. Who really uses S-video anymore, anyway?

The majority of the public who doesn't have an HD set


If you don't have an HD set, then there's not much point to using the video-out feature in the first place. The PSP Slim outputs in standard widescreen, as I recall, so on older TV sets you'll be playing letterboxed games. The main appeal is that the Slim can output in 480p widescreen - something which us HDTV owners will benefit greatly from.

Aside from that, hasn't component-in been standard on even lower-end CRTs for years now? I bought a little $100 flatscreen CRT about a year back, and even that had component-in.


When outputting games, the entire image is cropped to the PSPs native rez - aka much smaller than the actual screen, even if it is HD. So both HD and SD would have severe cropping/letterboxing, although why they dont let SD output games is beyond stupid.

Not to mention the best the PSP can output is 480x640p, aka 4:3 which is not widescreen.

The thing is, they have the cable but wont release it stateside, which is almost as dumb as nintendo only release the GBA player in one color in the US.

 From the Wikipedia article on the Slim:

 "The PSP can output standard resolution (4:3), and widescreen (16:9). [...] To achieve TV output on the Slim model, Composite, S-Video, Component and D-Terminal cables are sold separately by Sony. Only the component or D-Terminal cables are able to output games on a TV (Progressive Scan Enabled TV only). The maximum resolution through TV output is 640x480 pixels."

 So, yes, the PSP can output in 16:9. Also, "480p" includes 480p widescreen as well as 4:3.

Finally, there's a picture on the Wiki atricle of a PSP outputting to a widescreen HDTV, and there's no cropping. Do you have a source that says otherwise?

Another interesting point here: The Slim can't output games via S-video. So, the States not getting S-video is kind of a moot point.



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KruzeS on 04 October 2007
Garcian Smith said:

Finally, there's a picture on the Wiki atricle of a PSP outputting to a widescreen HDTV, and there's no cropping. Do you have a source that says otherwise?

Well, have you read any PSP Slim review? That's movies and XMB, he specifically mentioned games. Games are not only played through component only, but they are progressive only and they have both huge letterboxing+pillarboxing. This means that not only chances are your SDTV craps out on games (EDTVs and HDTVs should all be fine), but also that the PSP will only use about 2/3 of your screen space to output games (unless your TV has a way to "manually" fiddle with that).

Source (scrolldown): http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/review-of-the-new-psp-slim.ars/2



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routsounmanman on 04 October 2007
hunter_alien said:
Why would you even want to connect your PSP to a TV if you cant play games ... oh and dont tell me as a reson : ,, for movies " because for that you have a cheap 20$ DVD player in worst case :?

 Why would you even want to connect yor PSP to a TV to play games? most likely you'll have a PS2.



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hunter_alien on 04 October 2007
routsounmanman said:
hunter_alien said:
Why would you even want to connect your PSP to a TV if you cant play games ... oh and dont tell me as a reson : ,, for movies " because for that you have a cheap 20$ DVD player in worst case :?

Why would you even want to connect yor PSP to a TV to play games? most likely you'll have a PS2.


 Hmmm ... you have a point there ... I dont know why ... just because its possible IMO ... on the other hand , I would like to play PSP games on the big screen , but movies I would rather watch on a regular DVD player ... I only watch PSP movies in my bed , when I dont want to disturb nobody ...



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jman8 on 04 October 2007
routsounmanman said:
hunter_alien said:
Why would you even want to connect your PSP to a TV if you cant play games ... oh and dont tell me as a reson : ,, for movies " because for that you have a cheap 20$ DVD player in worst case :?

Why would you even want to connect yor PSP to a TV to play games? most likely you'll have a PS2.


So that when you're on the road you can play a great game that isn't on the PS2 like Syphon Filter, then come home and plug it into the TV and play on a bigger screen with good audio. The same goes for watching movies off of UMD or  memory stick. It's like having a more functional PS2 that isn't tied permanently to your TV. I think its brilliant. 



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