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Skeeuk on 07 July 2009
Cypher1980 said:
Some people are so anti PS3.

The way people go on about Sony being so fuck@d, they would have to be the Jenna Jameson of the console world.


the clear reason why they are anti ps3, is ps3 has provided better games. they just need to cling on to straws as best they can, i feel sorry for them.



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Killergran on 07 July 2009
yo_john117 said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
yo_john117 said:

I thought Europe/Others was the second biggest market?

You are joking right? Europe is a continent and others is compose of many countries.

Japan is only 1 country.

Well i thought we were talking about regions....like how vgchartz has it. America > Europe/Others > Japan.  

But if we are talking about individual countries then yes Japan is the second largest market

"Market" is a word that is extremely fluid. It means something like 'All buyers/potential buyers with characteristic X'.

So arguing about which is the bigger market is arguing over definitions.

 

But isn't the UK bigger than Japan nowadays? Not that it matters.



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Kantor on 07 July 2009
Killergran said:
yo_john117 said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
yo_john117 said:

I thought Europe/Others was the second biggest market?

You are joking right? Europe is a continent and others is compose of many countries.

Japan is only 1 country.

Well i thought we were talking about regions....like how vgchartz has it. America > Europe/Others > Japan.  

But if we are talking about individual countries then yes Japan is the second largest market

"Market" is a word that is extremely fluid. It means something like 'All buyers/potential buyers with characteristic X'.

So arguing about which is the bigger market is arguing over definitions.

 

But isn't the UK bigger than Japan nowadays? Not that it matters.

In hardware, the UK is bigger, in software, Japan is bigger.



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Lolcislaw on 07 July 2009
Skeeuk said:
Cypher1980 said:
Some people are so anti PS3.

The way people go on about Sony being so fuck@d, they would have to be the Jenna Jameson of the console world.


the clear reason why they are anti ps3, is ps3 has provided better games. they just need to cling on to straws as best they can, i feel sorry for them.

People wouldnt be anti PS3 if they perceived this system as having better games... i dont think anyone that bashes PS3 thinks it has better games then 360 or Wii (depends who's bashing)

But Sony are kinda screwed, hopefuly price cut will help. Oh what does your sig mean i kinda dont get it.



Cypher1980 on 07 July 2009
stewroids said:
The PS3 has been doing really well keeping the following facts in mind:

1. It was launched at a price of $600, which is 200 or 300 more than the 360 and Wii were at the time. Even now, the cheapest PS3 you can get is $400 while the cheapest 360 is $200. The arcade console from Microsoft is one of the main reasons the 360 is ahead, it's really cheap and a parent would obviously buy the cheaper console for their kid.

2. PS3 has been out for about 3 years now and has sold 22 million units, meaning on average, about 7.5 million units per year. The 360 on the other hand has been out for 4 years and has sold 30 million units thus far, and is also selling 7.5 million on average per year. The extra year that the 360 has on the PS3 is responsible for the lead, MS had a head start. If the PS3 had released a year earlier, then it would be in the lead!

3. The 360 has a failure rate of 40 percent, while the PS3 is less than 1 percent. Many people would just send their system in for repair, but some of them just buy a new console because the defect isn't covered under the warranty or they just didn't want to wait for the entire process to take place. Not only that, but the 3 year warranty of many 360 owners that bought it when it came has expired which forced them to buy a new 360. I would say the defects in the 360 are responsible for a good amount of units sold, as much as 5-6 million and this number will only continue to grow as the warranties keep expiring.

In my opinion, the PS3 will gain momentum if they play their cards right. There is no hope of catching to the Wii, in my opinion they are the winners of this generation. But if Sony drops the price and bundles the console with GT5 or Uncharted 2, then it will sell like hot cakes. My prediction is that by the end of 2010, the PS3 and 360 will be practically even in terms of units sold and since this generation is said to last longer than previous generation (even until 2015), the PS3 has plenty of time to overtake the 360 and win beat MS once again.

I guess time will tell though...one thing is for sure though...Nintendo fucking rocks! They have a clean victory over both consoles and made a comeback from the previous generation.

I had no idea that the 360 failure rates were so high. That would mean over 12 million consoles have failed since launch.

 

Amazing. The things you learn on the internet huh !



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Kantor on 07 July 2009
Lolcislaw said:
Skeeuk said:
Cypher1980 said:
Some people are so anti PS3.

The way people go on about Sony being so fuck@d, they would have to be the Jenna Jameson of the console world.


the clear reason why they are anti ps3, is ps3 has provided better games. they just need to cling on to straws as best they can, i feel sorry for them.

People wouldnt be anti PS3 if they perceived this system as having better games... i dont think anyone that bashes PS3 thinks it has better games then 360 or Wii (depends who's bashing)

But Sony are kinda screwed, hopefuly price cut will help. Oh what does your sig mean i kinda dont get it.

From left to right:

Aluminum (American way, without the extra "i"), Tart, and "Wanna Fight Me?" (as far as I can tell)



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BMaker11 on 07 July 2009
yo_john117 said:
WheelStriker said:
Sales, that's all people talk about. People actually think that more sales means better quality. But the fact is that's not always the case and it's sad that many people don't understand this. Or more likely chooses to ignore it.

If sales mean better quality, then I guess it's safe to say that "big bumpin" (a mediocre game) is the xbox 360's best exclusive and is one of the games that defines the xbox brand as it has high sales.



WTF is "big bumpin"?

And yes sales are the most importent thing at the end of the day, and yes they declare how much quality a product has.  Sure there are always the exception but most of the time sales=quality because thats what most people want...

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Destroyer_of_knights on 07 July 2009

"*NTH (Now that's hardcore) is a fictive market research firm that collects its data primarily from internet message boards."

the above + no source link = this thread is based on the typical BS from the common troll gebx.

Typical fucking troll that the mods allow time and again to put up crap like this, if this person did the same thing in real life as he did here, he would be having a meat sandwich every afternoon at guantanamo bay.



akuseru on 07 July 2009
noname2200 said:
Carl2291 said:

1. Trust me Sony will finish well. I expect the PS3 to sell at least 18Million units next year thanks to EyePet and eclipse the Wii which will sell 17.8Million.

2. Ive ALWAYS loved Japan as a market, they are fair... and like GOOD QUALITY products. As for France, no... i dont. They are too busy buying other things like sex, champagne, garlic and snails to care about consoles.

3. Large failure rate? EXCUSE me mister, but my PStripple has never once even been ill. And our customer service is amazing, they dont get too over worked as our PS3s always pull through in the tough times, and i can understand them on the phone

4. Ahh so you were fibbing. Any more of that and i will have to report you to the trey brotherhood. Trey 4 Life!

2) Yeah, "good quality products."

Like hentai dating sims, and Emo Teen Saves The World Part MCVIII: This Time The Guys REALLY Look Like Girls.

 

 

 

 

More like being the leading nation in Robotics and "Given that in the next two decades robots will be capable of replacing humans in most manufacturing and service jobs, economic development will be primarily determined by the advancement of robotics. Given Japan's current strength in this field, it may well become the economic leader in the next 20 years (part 1, part 2). Marshall Brain also discusses the emergence of robotic economy"

Fail, but reading your posts this doesn't surprise me.. Maybe you're joking, only retarded people would not... when I think about it, I know you're joking =D

 

edit: why can't I write outside the quote box??!!?!?!


stewroids on 07 July 2009
Cypher1980 said:
stewroids said:
The PS3 has been doing really well keeping the following facts in mind:

1. It was launched at a price of $600, which is 200 or 300 more than the 360 and Wii were at the time. Even now, the cheapest PS3 you can get is $400 while the cheapest 360 is $200. The arcade console from Microsoft is one of the main reasons the 360 is ahead, it's really cheap and a parent would obviously buy the cheaper console for their kid.

2. PS3 has been out for about 3 years now and has sold 22 million units, meaning on average, about 7.5 million units per year. The 360 on the other hand has been out for 4 years and has sold 30 million units thus far, and is also selling 7.5 million on average per year. The extra year that the 360 has on the PS3 is responsible for the lead, MS had a head start. If the PS3 had released a year earlier, then it would be in the lead!

3. The 360 has a failure rate of 40 percent, while the PS3 is less than 1 percent. Many people would just send their system in for repair, but some of them just buy a new console because the defect isn't covered under the warranty or they just didn't want to wait for the entire process to take place. Not only that, but the 3 year warranty of many 360 owners that bought it when it came has expired which forced them to buy a new 360. I would say the defects in the 360 are responsible for a good amount of units sold, as much as 5-6 million and this number will only continue to grow as the warranties keep expiring.

In my opinion, the PS3 will gain momentum if they play their cards right. There is no hope of catching to the Wii, in my opinion they are the winners of this generation. But if Sony drops the price and bundles the console with GT5 or Uncharted 2, then it will sell like hot cakes. My prediction is that by the end of 2010, the PS3 and 360 will be practically even in terms of units sold and since this generation is said to last longer than previous generation (even until 2015), the PS3 has plenty of time to overtake the 360 and win beat MS once again.

I guess time will tell though...one thing is for sure though...Nintendo fucking rocks! They have a clean victory over both consoles and made a comeback from the previous generation.

I had no idea that the 360 failure rates were so high. That would mean over 12 million consoles have failed since launch.

 

Amazing. The things you learn on the internet huh !


I wouldn't be surprised at all...every other person I meet has had their 360 broken down on them, even I have, 3 friggin times! One of my friends has had his 360 replaced 9 times...that's right, 9! And if you just google in Xbox 360 fail or something along those lines, you will see so many forum posts and articles about people compaining about the durability of the 360.