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Veder Juda on 17 June 2009
outlawauron said:
Gamerace said:
outlawauron said:
mjc2021 said:
Dazkarieh said:
mjc2021 said:
bardicverse said:
Seriously, promote the game better. Put demos in people's hands, create street teams handing otu demos at public events, and stop crying.

You're assuming people just don't know about them. I think the hardest thing to do is make a typical Wii owner care about their gamesy

Nop, there's one thing harder: make typical PS360 owners care about their games.

We're still waiting for one.

That's right. They still haven't made or published a PS3 title.


But the very fact they are niche market titles would ensure financial failure when HD costs come into play.

That would be true, but the PS3 offerings from NIS have done quite well. After the intial game released, and now we are seeing more games from them. They are obviously happy.

Even Valkyria Chronicles has found some success.

NIS knows how big their fanbase is, and how much revenue they can expect from it, so they budget their games accordingly; Disgaea 3 looked like a PS2 game.



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outlawauron on 17 June 2009
Veder Juda said:
outlawauron said:
Gamerace said:
outlawauron said:
mjc2021 said:
Dazkarieh said:
mjc2021 said:
bardicverse said:
Seriously, promote the game better. Put demos in people's hands, create street teams handing otu demos at public events, and stop crying.

You're assuming people just don't know about them. I think the hardest thing to do is make a typical Wii owner care about their gamesy

Nop, there's one thing harder: make typical PS360 owners care about their games.

We're still waiting for one.

That's right. They still haven't made or published a PS3 title.


But the very fact they are niche market titles would ensure financial failure when HD costs come into play.

That would be true, but the PS3 offerings from NIS have done quite well. After the intial game released, and now we are seeing more games from them. They are obviously happy.

Even Valkyria Chronicles has found some success.

NIS knows how big their fanbase is, and how much revenue they can expect from it, so they budget their games accordingly; Disgaea 3 looked like a PS2 game.

Well, of course they aren't graphically stunning. None of the Marvelous games on Wii look great either. They have good art styles, but are technically bad.



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Torillian on 17 June 2009

@Veder
exactly, so why couldn't Marvelous do the same. Make a game within their means so they stop losing money on them.



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Veder Juda on 17 June 2009
Torillian said:
@Veder
exactly, so why couldn't Marvelous do the same. Make a game within their means so they stop losing money on them.

I agree.  If Marvelous was spending huge money on new IPs, I'd say they broguht this on themselves.  New IPs are riskier than established IPs, and while there are things you can do to make them more acceptable to the audience (for example, Ubisoft might as well have called is "Assassin of Persia"), it's a gamble.



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Xen on 17 June 2009
Incandescence said:
Low sales are inevitable in Japan. The closed minded little munchkins don't buy anything nowadays except for the same recycled garbage over and over again.

That's Europe you're talking about. Casual, casual, football, GTA, FPS, casual, casual, football, GTA, FPS, rinse, repeat.

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outlawauron on 17 June 2009

I agree with you Veder, but Assassin's Creed was that much alike to Prince of Persia.



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forest-spirit on 17 June 2009

Yes, this is really sad, but unless a product is promoted and shown to the public it won't sell well. People rarely buy something they don't know exist...
I think they may have some problems with the Wii demographics, many of the Wii owners aren't regular gamers (they are the casualz) so they need to find better ways to get this massive group interested. Muramasa ads in women magazines, art magazines? Or better, make an anime OVA for every game, that'll work in Japan, I'm sure.

The huge group of Wii owners is there, just get their attention...



Incandescence on 17 June 2009
Xen said:
Incandescence said:
Low sales are inevitable in Japan. The closed minded little munchkins don't buy anything nowadays except for the same recycled garbage over and over again.

That's Europe you're talking about. Casual, casual, football, GTA, FPS, casual, casual, football, GTA, FPS, rinse, repeat.

That's a very good point you've made there.



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Veder Juda on 17 June 2009
Xen said:
Incandescence said:
Low sales are inevitable in Japan. The closed minded little munchkins don't buy anything nowadays except for the same recycled garbage over and over again.

That's Europe you're talking about. Casual, casual, football, GTA, FPS, casual, casual, football, GTA, FPS, rinse, repeat.

Europe? Are you sure you're not talking about America? Or are we more FPS, FPS, NFL Football, GTA, casual, FPS, FPS, NFL Football, GTA, casual, rinse, repeat?



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Lostplanet22 on 17 June 2009
Incandescence said:
Xen said:
Incandescence said:
Low sales are inevitable in Japan. The closed minded little munchkins don't buy anything nowadays except for the same recycled garbage over and over again.

That's Europe you're talking about. Casual, casual, football, GTA, FPS, casual, casual, football, GTA, FPS, rinse, repeat.

That's a very good point you've made there.


He forgot 'racing'.