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Seece on 18 June 2009

This is sad, but I blame Nintendo.

I could explain in about 3 paragraphs but I would be shot down and I can't be bothered with that.



 

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routsounmanman on 18 June 2009
txrattlesnake said:
Dazkarieh said:
txrattlesnake said:
Dazkarieh said:
Xen, my points are:

1- Every week there is a thread saying the Wii doesn't have good games, all are childish, for the casuals, so on.

2- Every week there is a thread where all the Wii haters come and say the Wii doesn't sell good games, or the Wii doesn't sell mature games, or the Wii doesn't sell hardcores games, and they should all be released in the HD consoles that they would buy it.

MAKE UP YOUR F*CKING MIND!!!

I'm I the only one seeing contradictions here???? Every core-niche-awesome game sells bad on the Wii, and it would sell better on PS360 because they would love it and buy tons! Sou why doesn't that gamer base move to the Wii then??? Because, judging by the huge quantity of threads about games they would buy, I'm sure they wouldn't have to put the Wii on the closet!

That's the reason I have all consoles available: all of them have great exclusives that I don't want to miss.


     Because if we moved to the Wii or most third party games moved to make the Wii their primary development console, then we would be missing out on hd level graphics.

But didn't you say that you would want these games? As is? So what's the problem for others like it? I don't see why would developers make Gears of War on the Wii because of ARF and Muramasa selling tons of copies... beacuase that would definitely happen if they were realeased to the userbase of the other platforms.

 

     I would like games like Fragile and Muramasa because I do enjoy those types of niche games.  And they do seem to have good enough graphics.  (Besides, I don't mind to buy a Wii because Microsoft said it would be a good idea way back in 2006), however, I also think games like Madworld and No More Heroes would sell more on 360, for example, because I don't think those are niche games like Okami, Fragile, and Muramasa, and No More Heroes and Madworld are the types of games that appeal more to the 360's audience than they do the Wii's.

Really? Name one black & white 360 game.



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NJ5 on 18 June 2009
seece said:
This is sad, but I blame Nintendo.

I could explain in about 3 paragraphs but I would be shot down and I can't be bothered with that.

Here's a man with faith in his beliefs!

 



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txrattlesnake on 18 June 2009
routsounmanman said:
txrattlesnake said:
Dazkarieh said:
txrattlesnake said:
Dazkarieh said:
Xen, my points are:

1- Every week there is a thread saying the Wii doesn't have good games, all are childish, for the casuals, so on.

2- Every week there is a thread where all the Wii haters come and say the Wii doesn't sell good games, or the Wii doesn't sell mature games, or the Wii doesn't sell hardcores games, and they should all be released in the HD consoles that they would buy it.

MAKE UP YOUR F*CKING MIND!!!

I'm I the only one seeing contradictions here???? Every core-niche-awesome game sells bad on the Wii, and it would sell better on PS360 because they would love it and buy tons! Sou why doesn't that gamer base move to the Wii then??? Because, judging by the huge quantity of threads about games they would buy, I'm sure they wouldn't have to put the Wii on the closet!

That's the reason I have all consoles available: all of them have great exclusives that I don't want to miss.


     Because if we moved to the Wii or most third party games moved to make the Wii their primary development console, then we would be missing out on hd level graphics.

But didn't you say that you would want these games? As is? So what's the problem for others like it? I don't see why would developers make Gears of War on the Wii because of ARF and Muramasa selling tons of copies... beacuase that would definitely happen if they were realeased to the userbase of the other platforms.

 

     I would like games like Fragile and Muramasa because I do enjoy those types of niche games.  And they do seem to have good enough graphics.  (Besides, I don't mind to buy a Wii because Microsoft said it would be a good idea way back in 2006), however, I also think games like Madworld and No More Heroes would sell more on 360, for example, because I don't think those are niche games like Okami, Fragile, and Muramasa, and No More Heroes and Madworld are the types of games that appeal more to the 360's audience than they do the Wii's.

Really? Name one black & white 360 game.

Gears of War has a lot of black and white in it.  Also, 360 fans love any bloody action games and there is a lot of blood in Madworld.



forest-spirit on 18 June 2009

^If Gears is black and white for you then I think you should switch out that old tv...



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Soundwave on 18 June 2009

Madworld would've tanked on any system. It's far too niche. God Hand flopped on the PS2. 

Sad to hear about Arc Rise Fantasia but what can you do ... even "name" RPGs like Star Ocean 3 flop nowadays. The only RPGs that can sell are Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, or Pokemon.



tuoyo on 18 June 2009

I love Little King's Story and I looooooooooooooooooooooooooooove Harvest Moon. I wish people would buy these great games.



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rgame1 on 18 June 2009

market it like no more heroes



txrattlesnake on 18 June 2009
Soundwave said:

Madworld would've tanked on any system. It's far too niche. God Hand flopped on the PS2. 

Sad to hear about Arc Rise Fantasia but what can you do ... even "name" RPGs like Star Ocean 3 flop nowadays. The only RPGs that can sell are Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, or Pokemon.


      I just don't see how.  And, I think the comparison to Godhand is erroneous.  Godhand was based off of a very obscure anime / manga that dealt a lot with deformities which just isn't popular subject matter.

     The difference between the niche appeal of the games would be Godhand would mainly appeal to Tetsuo The Iron Man and Marilyn Manson fans while Madworld 

     On the other hand, Madworld was heavily based on the look and themes of Sin City.  And Sin City was a very popular film property that made over $150 million at the boxoffice.  On the right console and with the right marketing Madworld should have done very well.

     The difference between the niche appeal of the games would be Godhand would mainly appeal to Tetsuo The Iron Man and Marilyn Manson fans while Madworld should have appealed to more of a mass audience like Sin City.

Sin City box office gross:


TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES
Domestic:  $74,103,820    46.7%
+ Foreign:  $84,650,000    53.3%

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
= Worldwide:  $158,753,820  

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=sincity.htm

 

On the right console and with the right marketing Madworld should have done very well.



c0rd on 18 June 2009

You can't just translate Sin City movie sales into video game popularity. I mean, people compare Okami to Zelda (yeah, maybe it's less similar), and look how well that game did on the PS2.

The game is just too extreme (B&W style, gore) for most people to consider buying. Its short length doesn't help much, either.