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S.T.A.G.E. on 16 June 2009
Riachu said:
This gen:WRPGs
All time:JRPGs

Great JRPGs were plentiful during the SNES,PS1, and to a lesser extend the PS2 eras. They just don't make them like they use to. This isn't even including ones like TWEWY and Persona 4.

Of all time means that the games will never be surpassed. I think you meant to say that the JRPG's had the great games of the past.

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S.T.A.G.E. on 16 June 2009

WRPG's have a style which is easily adaptable to multiple genres and can easily evolve. This is why they were the past and they are the future.



g-value on 16 June 2009

You people need to play Tales of Vesperia. Mass Effect was awesome but as long as jrpgs like Tales of Vesperia and Valkyria Chronicles are around don't count the jrpg genre out yet.



g-value on 16 June 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Riachu said:
This gen:WRPGs
All time:JRPGs

Great JRPGs were plentiful during the SNES,PS1, and to a lesser extend the PS2 eras. They just don't make them like they use to. This isn't even including ones like TWEWY and Persona 4.

Of all time means that the games will never be surpassed. I think you meant to say that the JRPG's had the great games of the past.

Name 15 awesome wrpgs and then you can start talking. But.... you can't do that can you?



NightstrikerX on 16 June 2009
g-value said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Riachu said:
This gen:WRPGs
All time:JRPGs

Great JRPGs were plentiful during the SNES,PS1, and to a lesser extend the PS2 eras. They just don't make them like they use to. This isn't even including ones like TWEWY and Persona 4.

Of all time means that the games will never be surpassed. I think you meant to say that the JRPG's had the great games of the past.

Name 15 awesome wrpgs and then you can start talking. But.... you can't do that can you?
  1. Neverwinter Knights
  2. Baldur's Gate II
  3. Mass Effect
  4. Knights of the Old Republic
  5. Knights of the Old Republic 2
  6. Jade Empire
  7. Oblivion
  8. Fallout 3
  9. Fallout 2
  10. Fallout
  11. Fable II
  12. Fable
  13. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  14. Quest for Glory 3
  15. Quest for Glory 4

Just off the top of my head. I know there's alot of bioware games there. But I have a bit of a Bioware biased. I would have included the other quest for glories as they are amazing well. But 3 and 4 sealed the deal for me.



Why must JRPG female leads suck so bad?

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g-value on 16 June 2009
NightstrikerX said:
g-value said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Riachu said:
This gen:WRPGs
All time:JRPGs

Great JRPGs were plentiful during the SNES,PS1, and to a lesser extend the PS2 eras. They just don't make them like they use to. This isn't even including ones like TWEWY and Persona 4.

Of all time means that the games will never be surpassed. I think you meant to say that the JRPG's had the great games of the past.

Name 15 awesome wrpgs and then you can start talking. But.... you can't do that can you?
  1. Neverwinter Knights
  2. Baldur's Gate II
  3. Mass Effect
  4. Knights of the Old Republic
  5. Knights of the Old Republic 2
  6. Jade Empire
  7. Oblivion
  8. Fallout 3
  9. Fallout 2
  10. Fallout
  11. Fable II
  12. Fable
  13. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  14. Quest for Glory 3
  15. Quest for Glory 4

Just off the top of my head. I know there's alot of bioware games there. But I have a bit of a Bioware biased. I would have included the other quest for glories as they are amazing well. But 3 and 4 sealed the deal for me.

...........

I bet you can't name 25 awesome wrpgs.



NightstrikerX on 16 June 2009
g-value said:
NightstrikerX said:
g-value said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Riachu said:
This gen:WRPGs
All time:JRPGs

Great JRPGs were plentiful during the SNES,PS1, and to a lesser extend the PS2 eras. They just don't make them like they use to. This isn't even including ones like TWEWY and Persona 4.

Of all time means that the games will never be surpassed. I think you meant to say that the JRPG's had the great games of the past.

Name 15 awesome wrpgs and then you can start talking. But.... you can't do that can you?
  1. Neverwinter Knights
  2. Baldur's Gate II
  3. Mass Effect
  4. Knights of the Old Republic
  5. Knights of the Old Republic 2
  6. Jade Empire
  7. Oblivion
  8. Fallout 3
  9. Fallout 2
  10. Fallout
  11. Fable II
  12. Fable
  13. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  14. Quest for Glory 3
  15. Quest for Glory 4

Just off the top of my head. I know there's alot of bioware games there. But I have a bit of a Bioware biased. I would have included the other quest for glories as they are amazing well. But 3 and 4 sealed the deal for me.

...........

I bet you can't name 25 awesome wrpgs.
  1. Neverwinter Knights
  2. Baldur's Gate II
  3. Mass Effect
  4. Knights of the Old Republic
  5. Knights of the Old Republic 2
  6. Jade Empire
  7. Oblivion
  8. Fallout 3
  9. Fallout 2
  10. Fallout
  11. Fable II
  12. Fable
  13. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  14. Quest for Glory 3
  15. Quest for Glory 4
  16. Quest for Glory 1
  17. Quest for Glory 2
  18. Quest for Glory 5
  19. Dungeons and Dragons
  20. Vampire: Bloodlines
  21. Planescape; Torment
  22. Dungeon Siege
  23. Dungeon Siege 2
  24. Ultima 6
  25. Ultima 7
  26. Geneforge
  27. Diablo
  28. Diablo II

WRPGs that have not been released yet will be awesome.

  • Dragon Age
  • Mass Effect 2
  • Mass Effect 3
  • Diablo III

Better?



Why must JRPG female leads suck so bad?

S.T.A.G.E. on 16 June 2009
NightstrikerX said:
g-value said:
NightstrikerX said:
g-value said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Riachu said:
This gen:WRPGs
All time:JRPGs

Great JRPGs were plentiful during the SNES,PS1, and to a lesser extend the PS2 eras. They just don't make them like they use to. This isn't even including ones like TWEWY and Persona 4.

Of all time means that the games will never be surpassed. I think you meant to say that the JRPG's had the great games of the past.

Name 15 awesome wrpgs and then you can start talking. But.... you can't do that can you?
  1. Neverwinter Knights
  2. Baldur's Gate II
  3. Mass Effect
  4. Knights of the Old Republic
  5. Knights of the Old Republic 2
  6. Jade Empire
  7. Oblivion
  8. Fallout 3
  9. Fallout 2
  10. Fallout
  11. Fable II
  12. Fable
  13. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  14. Quest for Glory 3
  15. Quest for Glory 4

Just off the top of my head. I know there's alot of bioware games there. But I have a bit of a Bioware biased. I would have included the other quest for glories as they are amazing well. But 3 and 4 sealed the deal for me.

...........

I bet you can't name 25 awesome wrpgs.
  1. Neverwinter Knights
  2. Baldur's Gate II
  3. Mass Effect
  4. Knights of the Old Republic
  5. Knights of the Old Republic 2
  6. Jade Empire
  7. Oblivion
  8. Fallout 3
  9. Fallout 2
  10. Fallout
  11. Fable II
  12. Fable
  13. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
  14. Quest for Glory 3
  15. Quest for Glory 4
  16. Quest for Glory 1
  17. Quest for Glory 2
  18. Quest for Glory 5
  19. Dungeons and Dragons
  20. Vampire: Bloodlines
  21. Planescape; Torment
  22. Dungeon Siege
  23. Dungeon Siege 2
  24. Ultima 6
  25. Ultima 7
  26. Geneforge
  27. Diablo
  28. Diablo II

WRPGs that have not been released yet will be awesome.

  • Dragon Age
  • Mass Effect 2
  • Mass Effect 3
  • Diablo III

Better?

Champions: Return to Arms

Champions of Norrath: Return to Arms

World of Warcraft

World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade

World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance

Deus Ex

City of Heroes

City of Villians

Star Wars Galaxies

 

WRPG's soon to come that weren't mentioned:

Borderlands

Alpha Protocol

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2

Champions Online

Star Wars: The Old Republic

DC Universe

 

 



slowmo on 17 June 2009

Nice lists guys, point proved I think for the WRPG doubters.



S.T.A.G.E. on 17 June 2009

The major problem that most JRPG fans have with WRPG's is that the story isn't linear and that WRPG's lack emotion or seem "soulless". That problem has been more than answered by devs from Bioware, Obsidian and Bethesda. Not only do WRPG's have more consequences and player control, but the storylines are more interesting and can be maniuplated, while the player can enjoy the diversity of choice in what emotions they convey. For these reasons, WRPG's have found the answer to the major problem. The only draw back to a JRPG fans argument is that everything they like in JRPG's have nothing to do with RPG's to begin with.

With JRPG's the games value only comes in one play through, while WRPG's can be played numerous times to find new treasures only capable of being found by taking another moral path or class...because today with WRPG's anything about you can be either cause you to become hindered or pushed along in your search. Your choices are truly becoming more valuable today.

Speaking of the fall of JRPG's I wonder why JRPG fans are raving that Versus will be superior to FFXIII, because they took out the battle system, thus making it a full action-adventure game. Hmmmmm.... The wrold the world turns in mysterious ways.