Haha yeah, Zelda games do have a fairly ridgid formula with the entire temples thing. They even often have a dual world theme built in somewhere (OoA, OoT, OoT, MM and LttP all do at least).

What Zelda game had a lava temple though?

I don't see how a fantastic use of graphics can be seen as a crutch. I have no idea if they'd make a great 2D game, but it seems unlikely that they'll be put to the test in that, because they started making games after 3d because standard.

And I would make posts aimed at the thread, Zen. The thread is ridiculous, luckily it has mostly moved on from its original topic.

Is it not called a Lava temple?  I know I've been in a vulcano to save Gorons in some form or another a few times.  Is it called the Fire temple?

You know, that's not too far off from "How many more times must I go into a temple?"  Complaining about there being a lava temple in every game (even though there isn't one in MM) is too general.  Now, if you're complaining about there being a lava temple where you put on iron boots and walk on magnetic walls and use magnets to navigate around the temple and rescue Gorons and get the bow and arrow for more than two games in a row, THEN we might have a problem with being formulaic.

lol you try to shove your opinion down our throats and yet only like two people agreed with you..

now will you stop being a sony fanboy and actually give credit where credit is due?

Zelda is Much much better my friend

I think paperdiego was talking to the OP.

Damn it, I keep forgetting that people might not have moved on from the topic like I have. The original topic is just so dumb I assumed most would ignore it.

Look,if team Ico releases 2 more really great,unique and innovative games and Zelda wii sucks or drops the quality of a zelda game lower than twilight princess did,then the answer is yes!if not,the answer is no!Just so you know,in my country,due to piracy,the 2 most-known systems are the NES and the PS2.The PS2 is more recent so 98% of the average people(rich people that travel out or spend a lot of time on the web so are more exposed excluded) play only the PS1 & 2,and know little to nothing of the existence of any other console.Wait,I have a point i'm tryin 2 get to....
90% of the time,they play soccer.5% racing games.4% shooting games(usually 3rd person),DMC & GOW.1% others.Therefore,they consider God of War the best adventure game ever and consider it blasphemy when I say Zelda is better.(they've never heard of or played it).Even when I play it in front of them,after a few seconds they decide its shit and babish.Those type of mpeople would even think less of team Ico's games...

Take no offence in this, but you botched playing Shadow of the Colossus then. And asking for a more explicite narration in this case is like asking for a wholly different tale, because it's a game made of silences and empty spaces.

The whole point of those ellipses whould have been undone by handholding the player through them.