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LordTheNightKnight said:
"Of course it is"

Bull. NPD, Media Create, and other organizations, have made game sales public.

What he DID speak about what the company thought was that this was a risk (which is obvious given it's not a proven IP). Anything else is just you insisting he's speaking for the company when he isn't.

 

He is speaking for the company as long as he is working for them. You gotta read my previous post. The company can get sued by anything an employee says while working for them.

And that includes investors and customers, asking themselves why is Capcom making a mature franchise if they don't believe that they are worth making. One can question the quality of the product and their business plan.



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"Well, until Capcom decides to educate their employees, I would still dislike them, no matter what game they bring out."

That is bullshit. Every developer has employees who spout off ignorant comments. Singling Capcom out is just as bad as what you claim they are doing. You better hate every company, even Nintendo.

"This isn't the first time. At least Ubisoft accepted it and they are moving on. They lied at first but later accepted that they were dishonest."

That wasn't Ubisoft. That was just some jerk employee.

"they also admitted how wrong they were"

When? Refuting what that jerk on the board did (which is informing that they never thought it in the first place) or something else?

And this isn't even a day old. Give Capcom some fucking time, if commenting on this is what you mean they should do.



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Ubisoft recently admitted how wrong their strategy and views they had about the Wii were.

And you think I never critiziced Nintendo of America before? Or Ubisoft, EA for that matter? I'm critizising Capcom because an employee of THEM made this ridiculous claim. Why should I be critizising any other company right now?



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hey guys, he's right, please remember that Mass Effect, Fallout 3, Assassin's Creed all flopped on the Wii, so he has a point.



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"He is speaking for the company as long as he is working for them."

No, that is pretending context doesn't matter. He uses first person comments in that quote, not third person plural, which would imply the company.

If he had claimed the company was concerned about the sales, when they weren't, that would be a false representation (like that guy from Ubisoft).



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salaminizer said:

hey guys, he's right, please remember that Mass Effect, Fallout 3, Assassin's Creed all flopped on the Wii, so he has a point.

 

That. And the fact that there's tons of game sales data that instantly prove him wrong.



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trestres said:
@RPG: I think you are getting too emotional and blinded by your Wii hate. Really, they made 2 Mature games and are making a third which are all million sellers or will be. Just because they didn't get to sell as many Okami copies on the PS2 as they wanted, doesn't mean that they can badmouth the Wii over Okami or other succeses. Z&W wasn't mature and sold poorly, so Wii can't sell games at all?

Madworld and HotD:OK are obviously those games, but in a desperate move to attack SEGA for their relation with the ex-Clover members, they talk shit about the Wii.

They are bitter just like people who don't accept it.

 

How do you know Overkill is one of the games?  It seems like the game is going to make money so it goes against what the guy was talking about.



 

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LordTheNightKnight said:
"He is speaking for the company as long as he is working for them."

No, that is pretending context doesn't matter. He uses first person comments in that quote, not third person plural, which would imply the company.

If he had claimed the company was concerned about the sales, when they weren't, that would be a false representation (like that guy from Ubisoft).

 

If a guy at Nokia came out and said "Cellphoness cause brain cancer" no matter if it's true or false, don't you think Nokia will be questioned? Who do you think will have to come out and give explanations, him or the company?



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FreeTalkLive said:
trestres said:
@RPG: I think you are getting too emotional and blinded by your Wii hate. Really, they made 2 Mature games and are making a third which are all million sellers or will be. Just because they didn't get to sell as many Okami copies on the PS2 as they wanted, doesn't mean that they can badmouth the Wii over Okami or other succeses. Z&W wasn't mature and sold poorly, so Wii can't sell games at all?

Madworld and HotD:OK are obviously those games, but in a desperate move to attack SEGA for their relation with the ex-Clover members, they talk shit about the Wii.

They are bitter just like people who don't accept it.

 

How do you know Overkill is one of the games?  It seems like the game is going to make money so it goes against what the guy was talking about.

 

Well those are the most recent M rated games that have been released for the Wii. Unless he is talking about NMH, which sold well enough to warrant a sequel (maybe bitter as well because he made Killer7 which sold bad and was published by Capcom).

It could be any other game with M ratings, but cherry picking makes him look quite bad.



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"If a guy at Nokia came out and said "Cellphoness cause brain cancer" no matter if it's true or false, don't you think Nokia will be questioned?"

Questioned is not assuming this is there position. You SHOULD question before you imply they feel a certain way.

And I did. I've already started a thread on the Capcom-Unity boards asking them about it. So they can give an actually official word on this.



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