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Valkyria00 on 22 April 2009
wfz said:
Well I can understand where they are coming from. While playing a tennis game on the Wii, what is easier: flicking and doing a general swinging motion of the controller to hit a ball, or doing an actual tennis swing?

There's a reason why people pay lots of money to take LOTS of lessons to learn how to properly swing and play tennis. WM+ definitely makes things harder, but it's up to the developers to make sure that they cope with this and try to create an experience that works. Developing their tennis game to replicate real tennis would be a horrible idea. Doing a somewhat close but fairly simplistic method is much better.

The same goes for golf and all the other sports. People spend thousands and thousands of dollars taking lessons, and still many of them never amount to being very great. WM+ shouldn't be used in development for making those exact realizations, they'd be way too hard.

Then again, lets look at it from another perspective. What's easier, swining the wii remote exactly like you want a sword to move, or doing a general motion and hoping the sword reacts in the pre-determined way you wanted it to swing?

It really depends on the type of game and the developers.

I just think thats over-analyzing. I suck at explaining and too tired right now to even bother though >.<

 



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hsrob on 22 April 2009

@Killzowned: Did you even bother to read the thread? The discussion at hand is that a source on the internet has stated that they think the motion plus is unnecessary. The rights or wrongs of Nintendo have nothing to do with it.

Of course 1-Up is entitled to their opinion but the question is whether they have even had a hands on with the WM+. If they have then this is especially important considering they are major source that any of us is aware of that has had a negative view of WM+. If they haven't gone hands on with WM+ then their opinions aren't any more valid than opinions of the people on this message board. Furthermore, if it is their contention that "the remote is already fine", then that is at odds with most people in and around the industry.



wfz on 22 April 2009
Valkyria00 said:
wfz said:
Well I can understand where they are coming from. While playing a tennis game on the Wii, what is easier: flicking and doing a general swinging motion of the controller to hit a ball, or doing an actual tennis swing?

There's a reason why people pay lots of money to take LOTS of lessons to learn how to properly swing and play tennis. WM+ definitely makes things harder, but it's up to the developers to make sure that they cope with this and try to create an experience that works. Developing their tennis game to replicate real tennis would be a horrible idea. Doing a somewhat close but fairly simplistic method is much better.

The same goes for golf and all the other sports. People spend thousands and thousands of dollars taking lessons, and still many of them never amount to being very great. WM+ shouldn't be used in development for making those exact realizations, they'd be way too hard.

Then again, lets look at it from another perspective. What's easier, swining the wii remote exactly like you want a sword to move, or doing a general motion and hoping the sword reacts in the pre-determined way you wanted it to swing?

It really depends on the type of game and the developers.

I just think thats over-analyzing. I suck at explaining and too tired right now to even bother though >.<

 

Well that's exactly what I was doing, taking the extreme case. Even still, while it makes it more precise, it is more difficult (if even by a small margine) for someone to make a more appropriate tennis swing than a basic gesture.

For sports games like Tennis and golf, at least.

Which is why, like i said, developers should obviously not program games with such insane detail to realistic controls that would steep the learning curve too much. It's up to them to figure out how to best use the controls. The great thing about WM+ is that it gives them a very very broad region of control settings, configurations, and sensitivities to work with!

 

So I theory I'd say the WM+ makes things more difficult, it certainly might for a developer, but in the end what makes a game harder or easier is the way the developers learn and effectively use the WM+.



dark_gh0st_b0y on 22 April 2009

can't wait for Wii motion plus

who cares what they think



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Paperdiego on 22 April 2009

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scottie said:
Killzowned said:
If anyone criticises Nintendo, they are anti-nintendo and should be ignored. Nintendo can never do anything wrong.

 

HAHAHA!!

 

So you honestly believe that 'not needed. Only makes things harder' is a good description of WiiMotion+

 

I believe the bestthing to say to you is 

 

If anyone criticises Nintendo, they are nintendo fanboys and should be ignored. Nintendo can never do anything right.

 

Face it, Wiimotion+ is the best thing to happen to gaming since the Wiimote

agreed. Wii and WiiMotion Plus will reignite the gaming revolution 

 



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dark_gh0st_b0y on 22 April 2009
Paperdiego said:
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scottie said:
Killzowned said:
If anyone criticises Nintendo, they are anti-nintendo and should be ignored. Nintendo can never do anything wrong.

 

HAHAHA!!

 

So you honestly believe that 'not needed. Only makes things harder' is a good description of WiiMotion+

 

I believe the bestthing to say to you is 

 

If anyone criticises Nintendo, they are nintendo fanboys and should be ignored. Nintendo can never do anything right.

 

Face it, Wiimotion+ is the best thing to happen to gaming since the Wiimote

agreed. Wii and WiiMotion Plus will reignite the gaming revolution 

 

true! WiiMotion Plus is the real revolution if you think of it!

 



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

outlawauron on 22 April 2009
Valkyria00 said:
hsrob said:
Have these guys posted any hands on of WM+ games or are they just making an 'educated' guess?

This. I dont think any of the guys on the podcast have actually played with WM+. Hell Garnett says he only has like 3 or 4 Wii games.

The english dude on the other hand actually does and Im surprised he says the same thing. I really think theyre just hating because its another peripheral.

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Roma on 22 April 2009

Meh 1Up needs 1UP it’s you know what :P



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mike_intellivision on 22 April 2009
Valkyria00 said:

Ive come to a realization that if you want true Nintendo news and opinions they only way to go is a Nintendo centric site. All podcasts and sites that focus on the whole industry are shit because they know nothing thats going on. Minus IGN becuase they have a Nintendo team. Not a Nintendo portal that never gets updates.

 

That is why I had to break down and subscribe to Nintendo Power. (Yep, I find myself reading a magazine that they get at my son's elementary school).

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z101 on 22 April 2009


1up is joke. Everyone knows that they hate the wii.

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