... Why did it take you 4 days to answer? ...

Either way, no, I don't necessarily think MadWorld will hit 930k, but that's beside the point. You're pitting lifetime sales against 4 weeks and that's not okay. 4 weeks against 4 weeks.

There's little wrong with the game per se; it's just feeling the burden of unrealistic hype.

Why are we using just American sales?

SoTC, America + Japan after 4 weeks = 323,000.

MadWorld, America + Europe after 4 weeks (Europe is a far larger market than Japan) = 160,000.

SoTC was 140k in America alone. MadWorld is 90k in America alone.

The userbase argument is simply not true. At the time of SoTC's release, according to VGC data, the PS2 was at 87.5 million. Less than double the Wii at MadWorld's release. And you should know better than to directly compare userbases: as userbase increases, attach rate falls.

What I'm saying is that we don't know if MadWorld is a success or not. SoTC was certainly doing better at this point in time (partly due to it's release month), and it remains to be seen if MadWorld can have legs like SoTC in America. SoTC is definitely a million seller, perhaps even a 2 million seller, and that is not a flop. With the American data alone, it would not have been considered successful after 4 weeks. But now we know that it is a success.

MadWorld could get SoTC sales, but I doubt it. SoTC released right before a holiday, and got some good sales early in its life due to that. MadWorld released in March. By the time we hit December, it won't be a new game anymore, and people will buy it with less enthusiasm.

But stranger things have happened than MadWorld becoming a million seller.

The ironic thing is that Wii fanboys (not fans, fanboys) are continually saying that sales are a measure of quality, and now they're saying the exact opposite. Pretty funny, actually.

Europe may be a larger market than Japan, but Japan is a very frontloaded market. You need to take that into account as well. I'm not by any means saying that MadWorld is going to sell better than SotC, I am, however, saying that if you're going to call MadWorld a flop after 4 weeks you should do the same with SotC.

Where are these fanboys? As far as I can tell, No More Heroes is one of the most revered games for the system and that didn't sell amazingly (it sold well, but not amazingly).

That's the thing. The moment it's a Wii title, the argument which they once used, they now reverse. I'm not saying it's you, but you must have seen people saying that the Wii's superior sales prove its superiority, and how Mario Kart Wii is better than Halo 3 because it sold better, same with Wii Fit and Wii Play, etc. etc.

Never played MadWorld or No More Heroes, but they both look like solid games.

Oh, don't worry, I'm not taking offense, I know you aren't talking about me :)

Hm ... I haven't seen it much, but that might be because I try to avoid most threads that'll coincide with fanboyism, regardless of which kind of fanboyism. I see your point and I can imagine it does happen a lot.

Why do people insist on overrating the success of a friggin M rated Wii title? I've played and completed this game and it's nothing special. NMH is better and i couldn't care less if it sells crap.

He doesn't have a point because it can also be said of Sony fanboys. They say ps2 was good quality bc it sold a lot and they say ps3 is awesome and much better then ps2, but sales don't matter  now? It's easy to look at things in only one way. Sales alone mean nothing, but it does say something. Why madworld didn't sell? Bc its 4 hours long and black and white. Not a lot of people like that, so not a lot or going to buy it and that translates in to this sales. Kinda simple logic really.