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Majin-Tenshinhan on 20 April 2009
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Kantor said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
BMaker11 said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Alright. I'll accept that MadWorld is a flop at 170k in 4 weeks on a 49 million userbase... But only if everyone else accepts that Shadow of the Colossus is just a big flop in that case. Nevermind that it's sold well over a million now, because PS2's userbase was about 2,5x what the Wii is, and I don't believe SotC sold 2,5x more than MadWorld has so far.

As in a big flop, I mean, no sequel. No profit. It was a gigantic flop and made no money. Fair? No. Stop trolling now.

Only the US and Japan are accounted for for SotC.....and those two regions have it at 930k. So you failed. But to stoop to Wii fan logic:

"No, SotC didn't flop. It couldn't. Do you really think this was a big budget title? Team Ico was probably happy with the sales of the game"

 

 

 

Oh, no, no, no. You can't change the rules like that, boy. No 930k. 4 weeks. No more, no less. Four weeks. And that is it. Which, for the american sales, puts the game at 140k. I don't like being arrogant, but, sorry to say it, you failed.

Why are we using just American sales?

SoTC, America + Japan after 4 weeks = 323,000.

MadWorld, America + Europe after 4 weeks (Europe is a far larger market than Japan) = 160,000.

SoTC was 140k in America alone. MadWorld is 90k in America alone.

The userbase argument is simply not true. At the time of SoTC's release, according to VGC data, the PS2 was at 87.5 million. Less than double the Wii at MadWorld's release. And you should know better than to directly compare userbases: as userbase increases, attach rate falls.

What I'm saying is that we don't know if MadWorld is a success or not. SoTC was certainly doing better at this point in time (partly due to it's release month), and it remains to be seen if MadWorld can have legs like SoTC in America. SoTC is definitely a million seller, perhaps even a 2 million seller, and that is not a flop. With the American data alone, it would not have been considered successful after 4 weeks. But now we know that it is a success.

MadWorld could get SoTC sales, but I doubt it. SoTC released right before a holiday, and got some good sales early in its life due to that. MadWorld released in March. By the time we hit December, it won't be a new game anymore, and people will buy it with less enthusiasm.

But stranger things have happened than MadWorld becoming a million seller.

 

Europe may be a larger market than Japan, but Japan is a very frontloaded market. You need to take that into account as well. I'm not by any means saying that MadWorld is going to sell better than SotC, I am, however, saying that if you're going to call MadWorld a flop after 4 weeks you should do the same with SotC.