Well lifetime IS a very long time so I guess they were right on that point :P

Really, we're not at all qualified to call it a flop. Only Sega can make that call given sales revenue vs the cost of the project. I suspect this title will end somewhere between 250-500k, which would probably make it a decent success for an unknown franchise and potentially worth a sequel.

bigger flop than motorstorm 2 and resistance2.. and the soo called 2 mill seller lbp flop.wha!

I don't want to bash but this thread is hilarious.

170K? I was really shocked to see that number (and such a nice odd number to name a thread with too lol). I havent followed Madworld that much, but i seen it mentioned so often here on VGC... I thought u all were talking about a flop in the neighborhood of "1 mill became just a ½". But 170K...

Success is based on expectations of profits and whether a game meets those expectations.  By this measure, the business measure, the measure that matters, Madworld is probably not a flop.  But Little Big Planet, which likely cost 5x as much to develop and market than Madworld, may be a flop.

So now that you understand the idea of meeting expected success vs not meeting expected success, we can talk about what is and isn't a flop in the future with less confusion.

Do you think MadWorld will even reach 930k? Ignoring EU (making a compairson to SotC right now)

guess LBP being bundle helped it a bit...

AND Wii games are actually long term sellers

wow i wasnt aware that 170K means a game isnt a flop

Are you going to make a thread every time it crosses 10k units?

170k is hardly a milestone.

Wow, the console with the biggest userbase makes its games have legs. I wouldn't be surprised if it reaches 500k within a few months.
Why can't people understand that games can sell well even if it doesn't have 4 million launch week sales ?