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Roflinator on 05 April 2009
noname2200 said:
atma998 said:
BladeOfGod said:
tuoyo said:
Oh boy what is a good word to describe people who never learn? Idiots? Mental? Delusional?

I would have thought that given the results of DS v PSP and Wii v PS3 Sony would have taken enough humble pie and just shut up about Nintendo rather than continuing to make themselves look stupid. This is quite similar to what they said before the release of DS.

 

 DS v PSP and Wii v PS3 doesn't have to be about sales. PS3 and PSP are both much more powerfull than DS and Wii, have better graphics, multimedia, better online, more features...

 

 Wow! So much delusion here! That's too hilarous! LOL

Well no, in fariness to BladeOfGod nothing he said was factually incorrect...

It's just proving to be completely irrelevant to most of us.

 

Pretty much this.

 



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wichdog69 on 05 April 2009

I just got my DSi today and it's great my son has a DS lite and he was'nt interested in the new thing the ds could do. (I'm atually posting this from the DSi Opera browser)



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BladeOfGod on 06 April 2009
atma998 said:
BladeOfGod said:
tuoyo said:
Oh boy what is a good word to describe people who never learn? Idiots? Mental? Delusional?

I would have thought that given the results of DS v PSP and Wii v PS3 Sony would have taken enough humble pie and just shut up about Nintendo rather than continuing to make themselves look stupid. This is quite similar to what they said before the release of DS.

 

 DS v PSP and Wii v PS3 doesn't have to be about sales. PS3 and PSP are both much more powerfull than DS and Wii, have better graphics, multimedia, better online, more features...

 

 Wow! So much delusion here! That's too hilarous! LOL

 

 

Oh, ok. I am actually wrong. Wii has beter graphics than PS3, DS has better graphics than PSP, Wii has better multimedia, better online ( those long ass numbers sure are fun) and of course, more features on Nitendo consoles :)



bdbdbd on 06 April 2009

@KylieDog: But that's when we run into a problem where PSP doesn't have titles that appeal adults either. DS has Brain Trainings, BBA, NSMB, Sight Training, Picross, few Sudoku titles, and as more traditional games tons of RPG:s (generally more of the kids category though, but the genre is so old that everyone played has them as kids and propably keep playing the games as adults).



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

Millennium on 06 April 2009

There are only two demographics the DSi ignores: graphics whores and Guitar Hero fans.

Ignoring the latter of these is a problem, and while I'm not actually a GH:OT fan myself, it is related to the reason I plan on sticking with my original DS: compared to its predecessors, the DSi is both bloated and crippled at the same time. That's no mean feat, I suppose, but not one that should be encouraged.

Ignoring the former, though, is scarcely more than putting a toxic group of "gamers" back where they belong: back at the margins, where they can no longer hurt the industry the way they've been doing in their dominant position over the last few years.

Doesn't it say something about just how desperate Sony is that they've started in on the ZOMGKIDDY and ZOMGNOTNEXTGEN trolling? For people who say their systems aren't failing, I point to these ludicrous and invalid marketing techniques as proof that they are: there is no way Sony can possibly think these lies will sell Sony systems, but they've run out of other options.



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What do I hate about modern gaming? I hate tedium replacing challenge, complexity replacing depth, and domination replacing entertainment. I hate the outsourcing of mechanics to physics textbooks, art direction to photocopiers, and story to cheap Hollywood screenwriters. I hate the confusion of obsession with dedication, style with substance, new with gimmicky, old with obsolete, new with evolutionary, and old with time-tested.
There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

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Kenology on 06 April 2009

 

BladeOfGod said:
marktheshark275 said:
BladeOfGod said:
tuoyo said:
Oh boy what is a good word to describe people who never learn? Idiots? Mental? Delusional?

I would have thought that given the results of DS v PSP and Wii v PS3 Sony would have taken enough humble pie and just shut up about Nintendo rather than continuing to make themselves look stupid. This is quite similar to what they said before the release of DS.

 

 DS v PSP and Wii v PS3 doesn't have to be about sales. PS3 and PSP are both much more powerfull than DS and Wii, have better graphics, multimedia, better online, more features...

True, but what good is that when the DS has a much bigger amount of quality games than the PSP? 3rd party support between Wii & PS3 MIGHT be debatable in that they don't have really much to offer in terms of good 3rd party exclusives. I know about the Wii having tons of shovelware, but a lot of that shovelware originally came from PS2.

 

 

 

 

 

PSP ia about to get lots of great exclusives, like Little Big Planet, Motorstorm, Resistance, Patapon 2... Sony admited they didnt focused on PSP lately.

And PS3 got Resistance FOM, Resistance 2, MGS and Yakuza 3 as good 3d party exclusives.

I dont know why is everybody comparing sales here. Sony never said anything about DS sales. Yes, we all know DS already have those games, but we all know PSP version will look at least 10 times better.

We're comparing sales because:

1). This is VGChartz

2). "Good games depend entirely upon personal preference. What might be a good game to you might not be a good game to me, and vice versa. In such a subjective realm, only financial success can be a truly objective measure of who is better." - Mr. Storm, a poster at Kotaku

3). We know you don't want to use sales as a metric for success only because Sony is losing!



BladeOfGod on 06 April 2009
Kenology said:

 

BladeOfGod said:
marktheshark275 said:
BladeOfGod said:
tuoyo said:
Oh boy what is a good word to describe people who never learn? Idiots? Mental? Delusional?

I would have thought that given the results of DS v PSP and Wii v PS3 Sony would have taken enough humble pie and just shut up about Nintendo rather than continuing to make themselves look stupid. This is quite similar to what they said before the release of DS.

 

 DS v PSP and Wii v PS3 doesn't have to be about sales. PS3 and PSP are both much more powerfull than DS and Wii, have better graphics, multimedia, better online, more features...

True, but what good is that when the DS has a much bigger amount of quality games than the PSP? 3rd party support between Wii & PS3 MIGHT be debatable in that they don't have really much to offer in terms of good 3rd party exclusives. I know about the Wii having tons of shovelware, but a lot of that shovelware originally came from PS2.

 

 

 

 

 

PSP ia about to get lots of great exclusives, like Little Big Planet, Motorstorm, Resistance, Patapon 2... Sony admited they didnt focused on PSP lately.

And PS3 got Resistance FOM, Resistance 2, MGS and Yakuza 3 as good 3d party exclusives.

I dont know why is everybody comparing sales here. Sony never said anything about DS sales. Yes, we all know DS already have those games, but we all know PSP version will look at least 10 times better.

We're comparing sales because:

1). This is VGChartz

2). "Good games depend entirely upon personal preference. What might be a good game to you might not be a good game to me, and vice versa. In such a subjective realm, only financial success can be a truly objective measure of who is better." - Mr. Storm, a poster at Kotaku

3). We know you don't want to use sales as a metric for success only because Sony is losing!

 

 

1. This isn't Sales Discussion

2.LOL of the week. God Of War and Madworld are both GREAT games, but they didn't sold very well.Does that means Wii sports in better than those 2 games? NO! And i have no use of financial success of one company unless i work for them.

3. Yea, just like you don't wanna use an actual console/hardware as metric for success because Nintendo is losing



samus aran rules on 06 April 2009

Oh gawd typically Sonypr. Why can´t they focus on their own products and sales instead of badmouthing the competition? It´s even more embarrasing in this case when all know that Nintendo is number one now when it comes to salesstatistics.



Esa-Petteri on 06 April 2009

DS ignored me. :(



Kenology on 06 April 2009
BladeOfGod said:
Kenology said:

 

BladeOfGod said:
marktheshark275 said:
BladeOfGod said:
tuoyo said:
Oh boy what is a good word to describe people who never learn? Idiots? Mental? Delusional?

I would have thought that given the results of DS v PSP and Wii v PS3 Sony would have taken enough humble pie and just shut up about Nintendo rather than continuing to make themselves look stupid. This is quite similar to what they said before the release of DS.

 

 DS v PSP and Wii v PS3 doesn't have to be about sales. PS3 and PSP are both much more powerfull than DS and Wii, have better graphics, multimedia, better online, more features...

True, but what good is that when the DS has a much bigger amount of quality games than the PSP? 3rd party support between Wii & PS3 MIGHT be debatable in that they don't have really much to offer in terms of good 3rd party exclusives. I know about the Wii having tons of shovelware, but a lot of that shovelware originally came from PS2.

 

 

 

 

 

PSP ia about to get lots of great exclusives, like Little Big Planet, Motorstorm, Resistance, Patapon 2... Sony admited they didnt focused on PSP lately.

And PS3 got Resistance FOM, Resistance 2, MGS and Yakuza 3 as good 3d party exclusives.

I dont know why is everybody comparing sales here. Sony never said anything about DS sales. Yes, we all know DS already have those games, but we all know PSP version will look at least 10 times better.

We're comparing sales because:

1). This is VGChartz

2). "Good games depend entirely upon personal preference. What might be a good game to you might not be a good game to me, and vice versa. In such a subjective realm, only financial success can be a truly objective measure of who is better." - Mr. Storm, a poster at Kotaku

3). We know you don't want to use sales as a metric for success only because Sony is losing!

 

 

1. This isn't Sales Discussion

2.LOL of the week. God Of War and Madworld are both GREAT games, but they didn't sold very well.Does that means Wii sports in better than those 2 games? NO! And i have no use of financial success of one company unless i work for them.

3. Yea, just like you don't wanna use an actual console/hardware as metric for success because Nintendo is losing

1. But it is.  Hence Sony's bitterness.

2. That's not what I'm saying all.  I like MadWorld much better than Wii Sports.  But an unbundled Wii Sports sold way more than MadWorld ever will.  Therefore, it's safe to say that more people are interested in paying for and playing Wii Sports than MadWorld. 

3.  Using hardware as a metric, the PS3 is far more powerful than the Wii.  The PSP is more powerful than the DS.  It's a fact, everyone knows this - but no one cares!  More people want the weaker Wii and DS than the all-mighty PS3 and PSP - and we know this because the SALES say so!