Spankey said: Smeags said: YoY: Console Last Year This Year 272,915 204,477 139,344 157,716 92,974 95,530 104,306 79,807 90,661 60,248 Wii: +18,372 360: +2,556 PS3: -24,499 PSP: -30,413 DS: -68,438   Odd that the X360 is only up 2.6k YoY, I wonder if thats an anomoly or the start of something worrying. Was there a large release last year this week? PS3 down 25k YoY...Must be price point market saturation imo... Wii: diong nicely

X360 had a price cut on march last year.

I think that's what he was trying to say - that the underlying demand for the PS3 must still be higher than 360 as the 360 needs to be much cheaper to offset the PS3's demand advantage.

If Sony every actually get around to a price drop we'll see if there really is better underlying demand for the PS3 or not.

Overall pretty decent numbers.

OK, maybe you are right about that statement and I accept that. Maybe twice as much is an exaggeration. I do however believe the wii should be left out, not as an insult to the wii but it's sales are so astronomical it's a bit pointless comparing it to the other two.

My point is despite holding all the gaming cards like price, library, 3rd party support, massive advertising campaign, etc., the xbox360 is not selling as I expected it would. In all honesty I expected it to be competing more directly with the wii in sales.

Look at past posts and you will see many thought the same with the price cut.

As for fanboyism....please. I at some point owned and enjoyed all three. I got the 360 and enjoyed it until the third prod and decided to give up as it obviously didn't like my house. I now own a wii and recently picked up a PS3.

I am just writing what I think and would support/attack nintendo, MS or Sony should it be necessary to get my point accross.

@Reasonable.

Thanks mate, you really do live up to your name.

i bet next month xbox 360 will be > 30 mil

Hyruken said: Smeags said: WoW: Console Last Week This Week 178,568 204,477 131,239 157,716 117,495 95,530 97,348 79,807 63,237 60,248 Wii: +26,477 DS: +25,909 PSP: -2,989 PS3: -17,541 360: -21,965 YoY: Console Last Year This Year 272,915 204,477 139,344 157,716 92,974 95,530 104,306 79,807 90,661 60,248 Wii: +18,372 360: +2,556 PS3: -24,499 PSP: -30,413 DS: -68,438   DS,PS3 and PSP down pretty hard from last year. The thing is though not much coming out for the consoles for a fair few months so would expect numbers to start to drop off quite rapid, especially for the PS3 as it is in dire need of a official price cut here.

Kinda disagree. I honestly thought the PS3 would be selling above 360 for at least 1 - 2 months. KZ2 was biggest release since MGS4. I really think for the average consumer people are generally forgetting about PS3. We have to remember that this is not the 1st or 2nd year of the generation anymore. It's the 4th to be exact.

I think it's just to late to make any BIG impression now from 8 + million behind.

When exactly did a game increase WW sales of a console of like 25% for 2 months?

And still the PS3 is selling on average within a 20% of the 360 sales, and in Others (and basically in all EU save for UK) it's basically on par with the 360 - one year of headstart and price tag notwithstanding. I won't talk about Japan because that's a singular case, though an important one for game development.

I think that your perception about the "average consumer" might be heavily blindsided by considering only your immediate friends or more in general only the NA. That's what data collecting and statistics are for: going beyond personal impressions.

I hope you are right.

Just cannot see it happening anymore. I fully expect 360 to pull a gap of 20 million by the end of the generation. And the Wii well you do the math.

It wont be long (3 years?) Before we close in on last gens numbers. I dont expect that this gen will sell LOADS more than last gen.

No advertising, 2 blocks of shelve space in local shops etc etc. PS3 just doesnt have ANY momentum. Already this gen has seen roughly 100 million consoles sold. And only 20% of those gamers are PS3 gamers. Even the 360 at 30% isn't great. But the Wii is selling crazily.

^I disagree on your predictions for 360 vs PS3, but I'd rather continue to the next point...

Who cares about the Wii? Does every Wii sold really subtract anything from the 360 or PS3 market? 30% or 21% is only a percentage relevant to this site. In the real world the PS3 and 360 are doing their thing, ushering in the era of the multimedia hub.
Sony managed to push BluRay, Microsoft managed to put its foot in the door for the streaming media market. They have planned their hardware revisions so they have pretty good ideas of when and how they can begin to rake profit from the hardware that allowed them to meet their goals in the first place.

That's what is serious for them, not the stroking of egos. I doubt they even discuss the Wii much at all, if not as an interesting experiment in a widened market that they could not afford in the first place with their hardware. They just have different priorities.

@selnor:
So just do the maths: this gen's winner has every interest in keeping it alive as long as possible, whichever competitor stops before, so much the worse for it, as Wii is winning with really huge absolute numbers, but with a market share smaller than PS2 last gen, so it's leaving more room to competitors. This doesn't mean that nobody should launch its next gen console too early compared to Nintendo, each one should follow its plans about this, but simply that it shouldn't retire its current console as long as it sells well.