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I personally can't wait for the day, though a few things will need to happen first:

- The entirety of the EU would need to adopt the Euro.

- Every European country would need to adopt the same political system. It would be a tangle if we have a mixture of Presidential and Parliamentary Governments.

- A lot of the Eastern Bloc would need to develop a whole load more. Which will happen with time. If we form an "USE" before that, it could put a lot of strain on other nations trying to bring it up to "code", as it were.

Also, on a social level, people would need to become more accepting of cross-Europe immigration, etc. For an elected Government to work we would also need to do something about nationalism within the EU (elsewise Parliament representation would just parallel population sizes of different nations. People being voted in because of their nationality rather than their policies).

I also think it would be a gradual process. It's already been happening since the day the EC was created.



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Yes. Assuming laws and provisions could be homogenised, then yes. The basic model would be a combined UK/France/Germany system, with the other countries having to adopt the systems they have rather than vice versa. For example, an EU-wide health system would be modelled on the current UK/France one.

But I don't think radical, immediate change should happen. The EU should carry on passing laws that increase its power over national governments, and transfer power from the Council of the EU to the EU Parliament so that the ultimate power resides in a Union-wide elected body. Then the process of adopting joint laws would begin and countries would refer increasingly to shared law and practices rather than national ones. Finally, the national governments would be reorganised underneath the EU Parliament similar to current devolved parliaments in Scotland and Wales are under the UK one. I think taxes would be operated independently by local, national ("state") and Union ("federal") treasuries.



No. It would have to lower the rate of the Euro to compete w/ the US economically export wise. People are already sick of this and it would lead to a French style rebellion. Also, NWO anyone?



halogamer1989 said:

No. It would have to lower the rate of the Euro to compete w/ the US economically export wise. People are already sick of this and it would lead to a French style rebellion. Also, NWO anyone?

 



halogamer1989 said:

No. It would have to lower the rate of the Euro to compete w/ the US economically export wise. People are already sick of this and it would lead to a French style rebellion. Also, NWO anyone?

 

 Germany on its own has a greater export industry than the US. Let alone the rest of the EU.



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SamuelRSmith said:
halogamer1989 said:

No. It would have to lower the rate of the Euro to compete w/ the US economically export wise. People are already sick of this and it would lead to a French style rebellion. Also, NWO anyone?

 

 Germany on its own has a greater export industry than the US. Let alone the rest of the EU.

 

Yes but most of the German export goes to other EU countries. The EU has rufly an equal size export industry as the US if you exclude export within the EU.



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Slimebeast said:
SamuelRSmith said:
halogamer1989 said:

No. It would have to lower the rate of the Euro to compete w/ the US economically export wise. People are already sick of this and it would lead to a French style rebellion. Also, NWO anyone?

 

 Germany on its own has a greater export industry than the US. Let alone the rest of the EU.

 

Yes but most of the German export goes to other EU countries. The EU has rufly an equal size export industry as the US if you exclude export within the EU.

 

Because the EU is all about inside trading. So if it was 1 *country* all the areas would be trading with each other. Different parts of Europe specialist in different things, so it wouldn't need to import that much. Besides, of course....energy.



 

 

I thought that was what the EU was all about, basically.




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Slimebeast said:
SamuelRSmith said:
halogamer1989 said:

No. It would have to lower the rate of the Euro to compete w/ the US economically export wise. People are already sick of this and it would lead to a French style rebellion. Also, NWO anyone?

 

 Germany on its own has a greater export industry than the US. Let alone the rest of the EU.

 

Yes but most of the German export goes to other EU countries. The EU has rufly an equal size export industry as the US if you exclude export within the EU.

 

 Well, obviously, which is why the EU is so great. If it ever gets to the point that, statistically, people would exclude intra-EU exporting, then the EU's export industry would already be larger than the US's (basically, by the time the EU becomes a federal country, it's export economy would be much larger than the US's).