You still called each other names. There is no use denying that and you could get banned for that.

I am leaving this thread now. I don't want my 600th post to be explaining why someone might get banned.

@sienr
All very good points but you're a tad bit late to the party. I'm joinin dtewi and sqrl in leaving this thread.

lol I have to say in general I agree with this post, and it was awesomely funny.  I agree that games don't need to be much longer.  I think in general each genre has a fairly well established norm, and they should remain that way.  However, if price goes up, I do expect value to rise with it.  Of course, my percieved value is always going to be simply my own opinion, and to some the value may have gone up with the improved audio and graphics.  For me, I don't particularly care for the inclusion of Blu-ray in gaming, because I don't think games need to be longer than they are currently capable of being on DVD-9 media.  

I'm sure you do get paid better.  I do carpentry work, and get paid pretty much crap lol.  I value my time and money as well, but I can't really separate them as you do.  Time is money for me.  Every bit of time I spend working my ass off laying roof tile goes towards money I pay to spend time in school.  I then spend more time outside of school doing more work to earn more money some day doing something better than laying more goddam roof tile lol.  Most of the time that I'm even on VGChartz I've got a word processor open or a text book in front of me.  My time is everything to me, and I want to make sure that the time that I do choose to spend playing video games is a rewarding use of that time.

This thread was doing so well do. I reported a post and asked that the mod delete that post and everything following to make this thread useful again.

Well, yes, if the price goes up so too should the value. And if you like pretty graphics and good music then the quality has gone up a lot w/ the PS3. I'm not a graphics whore and even I see it as added value. Of course, I don't think the game is worth $50 with the upped graphics, let alone $60, so I'll just wait 'til it can be found used at a price I do like.

And I'm pretty much the same situation as you on time. I really only got as much time into AWDS as I did because I could play it for 15-20 minutes a day while I was in the bathroom. I have as many WII games as DS games and the usage times between the two is staggeringly different.

 I agree with you, Dallas. It's interesting that we seem to have already forgotten about E3, where it seemed like Sony was the one who got it -- games, games, games -- and Nintendo seemed to be focusing on market share and theoretical market expansion. It's odd to hear that Sony went away from the "Games! Games! Games!" tactic for Liepzig, but a single expo does not a market strategy make. I think this article is wrong -- or, at worst, I reserve judgement for a time when one can better view what Sony's marketing strategy is (or was). 

Hus has a temporary ban for trolling.

"Ohh noes someone done not think like all the nintendo people.
ban them, ban then all Hail nintendo Hail fuhrer."

No, in fact, you make up stuff like this and degrade our site by grouping everyone with Nintendo. You need to get over your paranoia about "Nintendo kiddies" always out to ban you. Stop trolling and respond appropriately to non-biased articles like this one, and you'll be fine. You can disagree with an article and not act out, it's not that hard.

Solidar has a temporary ban for personal attacks. If you don't like what someone else said, respond appropriately, or report it if you must. Do not go on a flaming rant.

Killzone3 has a warning. Don't encourage trolling, which both Hus and Solidar both were doing. I don't care if you agree with Hus or not, he was trolling, and you leading others on is clearly flamebait. You will get a ban the next time.

There are perhaps others such as dtewi who are also encouraging trolling. Dtewi, it is not your job to moderate. Stop posting between every other person, telling them they're going to get banned. That is my job; I make the decsions.

Just ignore it and move on, and that way I don't need to lock threads like this.

Sure there is... in fantasy magic land you could get much bigger longer games where you can spend years and years on a game without being rushed. 

That can't happen now but they can use that space to do other things once the PS3 has been out for a while.  Like say if they release an update to unlock even bigger layered bluray discs they may be able to release "Combo" games together in the "Greatest hits" section.  Push one game that was popular with a different genre game to try and get your base to diversify more.  Heck they might be able to do this without unlocking more blu-ray space.

I mean you could say people would complain... but did anyone complain about the NES combo games?  Sure they probably won't do this.  However Sony could and i think it'd work out pretty well.

@KBG29: “Cell is the most powerful processor a average consumer can have in their home. Intel and AMD don't even make anything close to as powerful. If you were to pick up a proccessor from them at half the power it would be about the same price as the PS3.”
Ok, where do I start… the best description for the Cell processor is that it’s a single core processor with several DSPs attached to it. Worst, it cannot even do out-of-order execution, meaning it cannot compete with PC solutions. Sometimes we need to stop taking our company of choice words too seriously and look for facts. I am sorry, but the PS3 isn’t a supercomputer, it isn’t even close.