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Pharaoh on 13 February 2009

Well I won't be contributing to either side as I will be buying both of them, but I highly doubt that a RTS could beat a FPS



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Rpruett on 13 February 2009
TacoBoy49 said:
No, if killzone 2 doesn't outsell Halo Wars, killzone 2 can be considered a failure. Killzone 2 is one of the most hyped(4 years of it) and one of the most expensive fps games of the most popular genre on Hd consoles and Halo wars is the complete opposite of all that. Moderately budgeted, not very hyped, and expected to fail as its a very unpopular genre on consoles

 

But ( And here is the key thing you are forgetting).  Is using the 'Halo' Franchise name.  Much like Mario Tennis, Mario this, Mario that. 

This is attaching the Halo fanbase to the game.  Anyone who follows Mario games and the 150 variations of them can attest to the fact that just having Mario's name stamped onto it adds quite a few sales.

 

Like I said,  I see Halo Wars selling about 4 million when you factor it all out total.   The question is will Kill Zone 2 be able to net those type of sales?  (I think so).



JaggedSac on 13 February 2009
TacoBoy49 said:
No, if killzone 2 doesn't outsell Halo Wars, killzone 2 can be considered a failure. Killzone 2 is one of the most hyped(4 years of it) and one of the most expensive fps games of the most popular genre on Hd consoles and Halo wars is the complete opposite of all that. Moderately budgeted, not very hyped, and expected to fail as its a very unpopular genre on consoles

Correct. Halo Wars sales are going to be interesting. This is the litmus test for the Halo brand. Can the brand sustain a non Bungie non FPS product? If this game succeds, expect the flood gate to open on Halo related products. If it fails, expect the Halo brand to still be relavent, but it will not see as many tertiary products.

blue-lady on 13 February 2009
Kantor said:
blue-lady said:
Kantor said:
blue-lady said:
Kantor said:
TacoBoy49 said:
Why would Halo Wars not have long legs? Halo 2 and Halo 3 had incredibly long legs. Halo 3 is still selling like it was launched last November. MGS 4 ran out of breath after 2 short months. Halo Wars will sell for a long time also. Halo brand is evergreen like Mario.

Because it's an RTS! On a console! It could be brilliant! It still won't sell Halo FPS numbers!

@seece: Oh, really? You know that Halo Wars is an RTS because you are an educated, intelligent 360 owner. Quite a few people are not. In fact, Makingmusic was telling us that somebody walked into his GameStop and asked if you could dual wield energy swords...

People will still buy it, because it has the word "Halo" and a bunch of Spartans on the front cover, and a little bit because it's actually a damned good game, but it's sales will be hurt by the fact that it's an RTS. On a console.

I don't see what MGS4 has to do with this, to be honest. It's a niche game in a niche genre, in a niche series which happens to have ahuge fanbase. It's destined to be frontloaded. An FPS is never frontloaded. CoD4 (I know not all FPS games sell like this, but for argument's sake) on PS3 sold 450k first week. Not a bad number, not very impressive. Pretty average.

It is now sitting at over 4 million sales LTD. It shows no signs of losing steam, even when a sequel has been released. It can easily do 10x its first week sales, but it's all proportional. The higher the first week, the lower the ratio of the first week to lifetime.

So, to restate what I said earlier,

First week: Halo Wars

First month: Halo Wars

First two months: Probably Halo Wars

Lifetime: Killzone 2.

There's a chance that I'm wrong, but there's a chance that you're wrong as well.

May I ask, what reasoning are you using to suppose Killzone 2 will have such tremendous legs?

It's a AAA (God, I hate that word) war FPS with tons of blood and enemies with orange eyes. People are saying it's an improved CoD4. It's not, but if that's what people think, it's what they think.

What reasoning are you using to suppose that it won't?

EDIT: Killzone 2 will not have CoD4 legs. Seriously. It will not sell ten times its first week sales. But it will beat the first week of CoD4.

I don't think this game will have legs beyond the next six months.

It'll only last till the next big shooter.  Multiplatform or otherwise.

We'll see when that happens, but I strongly doubt that. If CoD:WaW couldn't cut CoD4's legs, I doubt CoDMW2 will but KZ2's legs. The next major FPS the PS3 will have (that we know of now) is Resistance 3, and that's November 2010...

Something else will probably be announced before then, though.

Isn't Modern Warfare 2 out this year?

 



 

 

snyperdud on 13 February 2009

Anyone that expects Killzone 2 to outsell a HALO game is a little delusional.



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ocnkng on 13 February 2009

This could happen. Especially in the earlier stages, coz the Xbox community always buys more software. If past trends continue then definitely this is going to happen. Won't take away anything at all from the success of KZ2 though, which is going to be huge.



 

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Havoc on 13 February 2009

Halo wars will outsell killzone 2 and I'm a fan of both the halo and killzone franchise



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Godot on 13 February 2009

I have trouble believing that Killzone 2 will have legs (Metal Gears Solid 4 didn't) and will outsell Little Big Planet lifetime.

Don't you people remember last Christmas? Everybody was claiming that LBP and Resistance 2 would outsell Fable 2. The Xbox gamers are hardcore and buying a lot of games.



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PelshyX5499X334279YZ on 13 February 2009

I'd like to see the look of a 9 year-olds face after purchasing the game, realizing that it's not a fps.



colonelstubbs on 13 February 2009

Im almost 99% certain halo wars will outsell k2



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