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outlawauron said:

Well then, do we factor that in for Nintendo and Microsoft?

No, because AFAIK Nintendo and Microsoft have always used Sony's current method of reporting shipments (meaning sales to retailers).

 



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coolestguyever said:
VG is really lowballing the PSP and PS2.

The site is good for the 3 current gen home consoles and DS. But as for Sony's 8 year old beast and their awesome handheld...not so much.

Not even Sony counts the PS2 very well.   Remember the recent issue of 140 million vs 130 million?  As was noted before by myself and many others, sony used to report ALL manufactured units (this includes replacements, test tunits, demo units, retail demos, giveaways, promotional units, corporate sales, etc...) as sold units while everyone else (including Nintendo and MS) used the industry standard reporting method of reporting units sold to retail.  On April 1, 2007, Sony switched to the industry standard method.

The problem comes that the old method is still tracked internally (obviously) and still get's stossed around soemtimes - as was the issue with the 140 million number a few months ago.

 



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NJ5 said:
outlawauron said:

Well then, do we factor that in for Nintendo and Microsoft?

No, because AFAIK Nintendo and Microsoft have always used Sony's current method of reporting shipments (meaning sales to retailers).

Alright, I've never heard of Sony counting broken PSPs (which there have to be such a small amount of) as a shipped unit.



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You know, when my PS3 broke, it was fixed and the exact same one was returned to me. I figures lots of PSP's could have the same solution, although I've never heard of someone sending one in.



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Aj_habfan said:
You know, when my PS3 broke, it was fixed and the exact same one was returned to me. I figures lots of PSP's could have the same solution, although I've never heard of someone sending one in.

 

Neither have I, but according to NJ5's 'theory', there must have been millions upon millions 'replacement units' already.



Me and 2 of my friends got the psp on launch, all 3 still work perfectly, and i use mine daily, im actually hoping the damn thing stops working so i can buy the upgraded models, i've never seen a broken PSP, the failure Rate must be even better than the ps3 which about 1-3% by most accounts.



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Star Scream said:
Aj_habfan said:
You know, when my PS3 broke, it was fixed and the exact same one was returned to me. I figures lots of PSP's could have the same solution, although I've never heard of someone sending one in.

 

Neither have I, but according to NJ5's 'theory', there must have been millions upon millions 'replacement units' already.

It's not just replacement units as Viper1 said... Out of all the hardware that gets produced, only some of it finds its way to retail. And there could be some undertracking as well as I said before.

 



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it amazes me how much confusion a change of reporting of units causes. I wonder if sony intended this to happen. the numbers of units produced (the old way of reporting numbers) was always higher then shipped. this will effect any historical shipping number from sony during the real 2007 and before, and sonys fiscal 2007 and prior. the margin of difference will be magnified by how long before 2007 the unit was produced and how much it was produced. so in the case of the ps2 there were large numbers of units that were not shipped to retailers as units for sale. they probably ended up being used for a variety of other things from replacements to demo units, with multiple versions of the same basic hardware demos would be swapped frequently.

the psp will also be affected by this but to a lesser degree. replacements/demos/gift-units/review-units and what ever else that did not go to retail used to be counted

the PS3 will be the unit with the fewest number of consoles falling on this being only 2 quarters under those guidelines, and one of the quarters having production issues.


all of this makes me think sony should and investors should demand a retro history using the new model of reporting



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NJ5 said:
Star Scream said:
Aj_habfan said:
You know, when my PS3 broke, it was fixed and the exact same one was returned to me. I figures lots of PSP's could have the same solution, although I've never heard of someone sending one in.

 

Neither have I, but according to NJ5's 'theory', there must have been millions upon millions 'replacement units' already.

It's not just replacement units as Viper1 said... Out of all the hardware that gets produced, only some of it finds its way to retail. And there could be some undertracking as well as I said before.

 

 

its not just replacments demo units, gift units, test units, review units, all of these would have been produced for each version of the ps2 and psp hardware. these do not count it current shipped numbers but do count in old produced numbers and as said in my prior argument, the further out the unti was from the revision of reporting the more change there will be in reported 



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