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FishyJoe said:
I've said this before. Many of the people I know would rather eat vomit than play many of the 'highly rated' games like Gears of War or Metal Gear Solid. These people are normal adults with lots of disposable income. To them, Mario Kart and Wii Sports are excellent video games. Believe it or not, there are probably billions of people who don't like the violent, complicated games.

 

yes your correct and inline with my policy:) just play the games that you want to play. be it gears 2 or tic-tac-toe

the issue is does one game become better because of higher sales, even consoles to some extent.

last gen i gamed more on xbox especially the tom clancy games, with the exception of pahntasy star onlne on gamecube, in fact i didnt even know how many consoles xbox sold untill i joined vg chartz early this year. it made no difference to me when i had my xbox.

so wii boys argument that they bring up everytime pisses me off.



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Kasz216 said:
leo-j said:

Alright not to sound like a troll or anything, but why do wii fans constantly bring up the wii's sales, yet never speak of its games?

"Wii is beating the shit out of the ps3 and 360, ha" yes in sales..

"Wii is Koing everyone, and it deserves it I have one" k in sales..

Why do wii fans bring up sales, and not games? While 360 and ps3 fans always bring up games?

Is the wii more of a selling machine, or a gaming machine to its fans? They dont stop talking about its sales(Then act so superior because the wii is the king because of its sales, despite its quality compared to the ps3 and 360)

This is a sales site...

I think you may have missed this in your brilliant analysis.

 

yes its a sales site thats for sure, and its certainly interesting to watch sales come in, but for most its about the games not sales.

 



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Skeeuk said:
FishyJoe said:
I've said this before. Many of the people I know would rather eat vomit than play many of the 'highly rated' games like Gears of War or Metal Gear Solid. These people are normal adults with lots of disposable income. To them, Mario Kart and Wii Sports are excellent video games. Believe it or not, there are probably billions of people who don't like the violent, complicated games.

 

yes your correct and inline with my policy:) just play the games that you want to play. be it gears 2 or tic-tac-toe

the issue is does one game become better because of higher sales, even consoles to some extent.

last gen i gamed more on xbox especially the tom clancy games, with the exception of pahntasy star onlne on gamecube, in fact i didnt even know how many consoles xbox sold untill i joined vg chartz early this year. it made no difference to me when i had my xbox.

so wii boys argument that they bring up everytime pisses me off.

 

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not just Wii fanboys.

 



leo-j said:

Alright not to sound like a troll or anything, but why do wii fans constantly bring up the wii's sales, yet never speak of its games?

"Wii is beating the shit out of the ps3 and 360, ha" yes in sales..

"Wii is Koing everyone, and it deserves it I have one" k in sales..

Why do wii fans bring up sales, and not games? While 360 and ps3 fans always bring up games?

Is the wii more of a selling machine, or a gaming machine to its fans? They dont stop talking about its sales(Then act so superior because the wii is the king because of its sales, despite its quality compared to the ps3 and 360)

they don't feel like they have to since the system is selling so good

we have to there is nothing else to brag about ps360 still can't sell a mill in hw in a week

some wii owners are not into the quality of games the ps360 have they might actully feel that the high quality games on ps360 are nothing compared to the games that they like on the wii it's all about wat ur into even though u and i feel that wii games are not as good quality as ps3 games

 



                                                             

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Skeeuk said:
Kasz216 said:
leo-j said:

Alright not to sound like a troll or anything, but why do wii fans constantly bring up the wii's sales, yet never speak of its games?

"Wii is beating the shit out of the ps3 and 360, ha" yes in sales..

"Wii is Koing everyone, and it deserves it I have one" k in sales..

Why do wii fans bring up sales, and not games? While 360 and ps3 fans always bring up games?

Is the wii more of a selling machine, or a gaming machine to its fans? They dont stop talking about its sales(Then act so superior because the wii is the king because of its sales, despite its quality compared to the ps3 and 360)

This is a sales site...

I think you may have missed this in your brilliant analysis.

 

yes its a sales site thats for sure, and its certainly interesting to watch sales come in, but for most its about the games not sales.

 

Which would be good if this were IGN... being a sales site though, you should expect most threads to have to do with videogame sales... and for sales to be brought into most threads that aren't sales originally.

For example "look at these killzone 2 picks".  Well how do you think it will sell? is likely to come up at some point.

On a sales site... expect sales to be the dominant topic.

 



But to be fair this is a sales site meaning the main point of discussion should be well sales. Other gaming discussions should always be the secondary considering the theme.

But if you think about the psychology of it, people are going to talk about what they think is going the best to a product they like. PS3/360 gamers THINK that games is the main thing going on with their console so they'll use that as their bragging point. While Wii gamers THINK sale sis the main thing going for their console so that's their bragging point. Notice the keyword is think meaning its not true.

It's another example of well self-interest. Same reason why a game on Wii will sell 300,000 weekly and the only thing some people will talk about is a small percentage increase in a 360 or PS3 game with minimal legs. Or opposite as well. Or the quality of a Wii game is in question and all the Wii gamers go in there is say about how it will still probably make a profit.

All of these things are reasonable to be said but no one talks about the whole picture becuase not everything interests them. They talk about things that interest them which is good and bad. It's bad because selfish but good because it keeps ignorance, for the most part, out of the way.

Personally I wish people would practice both. Mainly when discussing sales, which is the main point of this site, that they discuss every aspect of it, not MGS4's slight weekly increases. But when discussing games they should probably discuss the ones that interest them or only speak respectfully of the ones they haven't played.


Overall all 3 consoles have sales worth debating about both good and bad. Also all 3 consoles have great and bad games worth talking about. That's the ultimate answer to this along with the psychological analysis that I am happy to provide.



Skeeuk said:
HappySqurriel said:
Skeeuk said:
leo-j said:

Alright not to sound like a troll or anything, but why do wii fans constantly bring up the wii's sales, yet never speak of its games?

"Wii is beating the shit out of the ps3 and 360, ha" yes in sales..

"Wii is Koing everyone, and it deserves it I have one" k in sales..

Why do wii fans bring up sales, and not games? While 360 and ps3 fans always bring up games?

Is the wii more of a selling machine, or a gaming machine to its fans? They dont stop talking about its sales(Then act so superior because the wii is the king because of its sales, despite its quality compared to the ps3 and 360)

 <---------------- this car, an austin allegro sold more cars than..........

 <---------------- this car a mclaren f1

the mclaren is the superior car, but the damn allegro sold more.

^i know the above is a bit extreme, but i just wanted to show that because something sells better doesnt automatically make the product better.

this seems to be a problem on vg chartz, instead of enjoying the games that YOU like to play, some people try to put others down that thier product is somewhat better because it sells more.

anyone who disagrees with my reasoning is "derranged"

YOU CANNOT PLAY SALES BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN PLAY GAMES...........AND THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT.

play the games that you like to play and dont let anyone else tell you otherwise.

^to those who claim something is better than other purely on the basis it sold more

nintendogs > fable 2 lmao..............................................

 

You can argue that the McLaren F1 is a better car than the Austin Allegro but the Austin Allegro is a car that can be driven in a winter climate, can go over speed bumps, and the total cost of ownership would be less than the insurance on the McLaren F1.

In other words, there are several metrics where the McLaren F1 performs so poorly that it could easily be argued that the car is worthless for most people.

 

well lol i did say its a bit extreme, but the point remains, something cannot better ie a game, simply because it sold more.

 

 

I think the same argument could be translated to games though ...

If you use the Myers-Briggs Jung personality profile people are measured in 4 different areas and grouped into 16 different classifications. One of the areas that is measured is how social a person is, and they are classified as an introvert or an extrovert. I could be wrong but I suspect that "Hardcore" gamers are generally much more introverted than the general public, and they may be much more willing to devote 4 hours to sitting down and playing a game than most people are ... At the same time there are far more extorverts in the world and they may value much more social gaming experiences.

Now, a game like Mario Party 8 or Carnivale Games may be very poor quality as defined by a "Hardcore" gamer but to more extroverted gamers games like Metal Gear Solid or Assassin's Creed may be too anti-social to be particularly fun. The sales of these games reflects how well a game meets the requirements of a certain group of gamers.



BHR-3 said:
leo-j said:

Alright not to sound like a troll or anything, but why do wii fans constantly bring up the wii's sales, yet never speak of its games?

"Wii is beating the shit out of the ps3 and 360, ha" yes in sales..

"Wii is Koing everyone, and it deserves it I have one" k in sales..

Why do wii fans bring up sales, and not games? While 360 and ps3 fans always bring up games?

Is the wii more of a selling machine, or a gaming machine to its fans? They dont stop talking about its sales(Then act so superior because the wii is the king because of its sales, despite its quality compared to the ps3 and 360)

they don't feel like they have to since the system is selling so good

we have to there is nothing else to brag about ps360 still can't sell a mill in hd in a week

some wii owners are not into the quality of games the ps360 have they might actully feel that the high quality games on ps360 are nothing compared to the games that they like on the wii it's all about wat ur into even though u and i feel that wii games are not as good quality as ps3 games

 

 

That's actually a good point.  Truly modest people won't brag because they don't feel it a necessity.  Actually those that brag about something usually do it out of desperation to front a point.  Some times its justified but mostly it isn't and based out of self-interest.  I'd say most of the Wii sales bragging is justifed considering the numbers but some modesty would be nice.

I'd also say some of the Ps360 game bragging is justifed but modesty would be nice as well.  Those that obsessively do it though are self-conscious about the flaws which fuels the self-interested bragging which is inherently bad.  Personally I wish people would simply state their justified opinions about things while respecting others and carry on with a debate rather than acting like a marketing agent of a certain company.  I think peole should only do the latter if a game is being hyped up or hyped down with no justification.



People talk about what makes them feel good.