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The truth of the situation is games are always getting delayed or canceled this is typically more noticeable on systems with smaller userbases because games do not end up filling the gaps left by delayed or canceled games; with the exception of huge games people rarely noticed delays or canceled games on the PS2 because for every game that was delayed or canceled 5 games were announced to be released at the same time.



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I apologize for the tone I've been taking lately against the PS3, I'm going to try my best to try to avoid adding a negative slant towards it in any new threads I start or any posts for that matter.



KBG29 said:
At least the quality of PS3 games continues to go up. Every time one of these crap games is not released for the PS3 it makes the avarage score of PS3 games look better. This is my favorite part about the PS3. Developers know they can not release shit on it, because people expect better from the system. I would like all games on all platforms to become exclusive on day. Meaning all third party game are made to spec for each console. It is the most expensive route so it won't happen. It does however yeild the best games when a dev makes a game taylord to one system.

Sounds like the ol' Nintendo strategy.

QUALITY over QUANTITY.

 Do you know why people didn't buy as many N64s and Gamecubes and Dreamcasts and Saturns and Gamegears and Jaguars and whatevers as PS1s and PS2s???

Because they had the smallest section in the store. The Best Buy / Circuit City / EB Games / Babbages's (At the Time) / Software Etc. / Toys R Us , take your pick. They put all of the other guys... in the back, because they only ahd a small wall of "quality" games.

The front aisle? The Big aisle???  Playstations and Gameboy.

That addage is BS. Quality over Quantity can't be substituted for a person that wants a new game and $50 is burning a hole in his pocket. So what if the game is crap... It's another game someone will buy. EVen if its sales are bad, some publisher is making some money. If they do not make a profit, they will have to improve their games, or they will go away, but in either case, a sale is a sale is a sale.

You look at it from the viewpoint that the game is rubbish to you.

But 10,000 other people might like it. And that is more hardware and software sales. This is something Nintendo just figured out. Only took them 10 years for a home system.



Predictions For Last Full Week of Sales in 2010)

WII - 80.35 Million

360 - 43.88 Million

PS3 - 41.40 Million

More terrible predictions coming Jan. 2011!!!

Thrillhouse said:
KBG29 said:
At least the quality of PS3 games continues to go up. Every time one of these crap games is not released for the PS3 it makes the avarage score of PS3 games look better. This is my favorite part about the PS3. Developers know they can not release shit on it, because people expect better from the system. I would like all games on all platforms to become exclusive on day. Meaning all third party game are made to spec for each console. It is the most expensive route so it won't happen. It does however yeild the best games when a dev makes a game taylord to one system.

Sounds like the ol' Nintendo strategy.

QUALITY over QUANTITY.


Must.... resist... urge.. to. respond... to this... Sorry I can't, Thrillhouse have you seen the amount of crap that third parties have released and will be releasing on the Wii (and DS for that matter)?  Ninjabread Man...  I think that title says it all.  Nintendo's first party stuff is usually great but when it comes to third parties it seems like Nintendo will allow anyone to release anything on their systems as long as it's not rated AO.



ckmlb said:
Garcian Smith said:
And the "Dreamcast Effect" begins.

I'm willing to bet that this won't be the first cancellation we hear about for the PS3 in the next few months.

...


 I'm sorry I know you love your PS3... but as a former DC lover I have to say that if it happens to PS3 (I highly doubt it) that would have a smell of revenge for me lol :) and make me feel good... once again more for the "honor" of the DC than the glory of nintendo and to some extend MS... just the thought of an old bitter gamer lol :D



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Legend11 said:
Thrillhouse said:
KBG29 said:
At least the quality of PS3 games continues to go up. Every time one of these crap games is not released for the PS3 it makes the avarage score of PS3 games look better. This is my favorite part about the PS3. Developers know they can not release shit on it, because people expect better from the system. I would like all games on all platforms to become exclusive on day. Meaning all third party game are made to spec for each console. It is the most expensive route so it won't happen. It does however yeild the best games when a dev makes a game taylord to one system.

Sounds like the ol' Nintendo strategy.

QUALITY over QUANTITY.


Must.... resist... urge.. to. respond... to this... Sorry I can't, Thrillhouse have you seen the amount of crap that third parties have released and will be releasing on the Wii (and DS for that matter)? Ninjabread Man... I think that title says it all. Nintendo's first party stuff is usually great but when it comes to third parties it seems like Nintendo will allow anyone to release anything on their systems as long as it's not rated AO.


No, he agrees, Legend -- that's why he said old strategy. The N64 era was dominated almost entirely by quality games... well, I'd say at least 50/50, one of the best quality/crap ratios of any system ever, and Nintendo hemorraged marketshare anyway.

So, they have a new approach. That's what he's saying. The Wii definitely has a ton of crap on the way, which is really how the PS1 started: it drowned the N64 in sheer number of titles, due its cheap development and production values. Later on, the PS name had more great games, but it initially beat out Nintendo by having a few good games and a ton of crap.



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Legend11 said:
Thrillhouse said:
KBG29 said:
At least the quality of PS3 games continues to go up. Every time one of these crap games is not released for the PS3 it makes the avarage score of PS3 games look better. This is my favorite part about the PS3. Developers know they can not release shit on it, because people expect better from the system. I would like all games on all platforms to become exclusive on day. Meaning all third party game are made to spec for each console. It is the most expensive route so it won't happen. It does however yeild the best games when a dev makes a game taylord to one system.

Sounds like the ol' Nintendo strategy.

QUALITY over QUANTITY.


Must.... resist... urge.. to. respond... to this... Sorry I can't, Thrillhouse have you seen the amount of crap that third parties have released and will be releasing on the Wii (and DS for that matter)?  Ninjabread Man...  I think that title says it all.  Nintendo's first party stuff is usually great but when it comes to third parties it seems like Nintendo will allow anyone to release anything on their systems as long as it's not rated AO.


The obvious flaw to that complaint is that, more games and a more diverse library = more consoles sold.

 However . . .

Nintendo once saved the video game industry with their seal of quality (after the market was flooded with horrid crap and the bottom dropped out in 83).  They decided, rightly at the time, that QUALITY was the most important aspect.  Fortunately, they were the only game in town, so they could make those sort of calls.  Unfortunately, that mindset bit them in the rear HARD.  Remember, the N64 was released with TWO games, TWO!  They were great games, but only two!  As many previous posters have stated, today's market is driven by QUANTITY, which is why Sony dominated the last two gens. 

Nintendo learned the lesson, and adapted.  Sony, meanwhile, got so caught up with this inferiority complex (My system is bigger than yours!) with MS, that they shot themselves in the foot.

What I'm worried about is if the QUALITY of the QUANTITY of titles doesn't improve, or if the rapid influx of so called "casuals" leads to a bargain bin rush of "Bejeweled" and "Mah-Jong" type titles, cheap, crappy games, mass-produced and shoved down the pipeline, OR if the treadmill of sequels doesn't end, that we could see another fallout as we did with Atari in 83.   Of course, I believe that Nintendo is far too shrewd of a company to allow that to happen, so we'll see.



I don't think it will be the same problem at the end of the day for Sony. They have a huge lineup of good quality games that should stop the quality over quantity problem of the N64 days. When the 64 came out Nintednos only problem was they did not have a big enoughf first party to back their system the way they wanted to, and the problem with Gamecube was the low sales, so they could not use all their devs to make great games for it. With Sony they have the third largest development house in gaming under the Playstation, and have set a good path of games for the next 1 1/2. If the Playstation 3 is not in 2nd or has to small of an install base by the end of next year we may see what happened to the N64 and Cube happen to it. In the end the PS3 will go down as one of the greatest consoles of all time. The only question is will it be N64 great or PS2 great?



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Bodhesatva said:
Legend11 said:
Thrillhouse said:
KBG29 said:
At least the quality of PS3 games continues to go up. Every time one of these crap games is not released for the PS3 it makes the avarage score of PS3 games look better. This is my favorite part about the PS3. Developers know they can not release shit on it, because people expect better from the system. I would like all games on all platforms to become exclusive on day. Meaning all third party game are made to spec for each console. It is the most expensive route so it won't happen. It does however yeild the best games when a dev makes a game taylord to one system.

Sounds like the ol' Nintendo strategy.

QUALITY over QUANTITY.


Must.... resist... urge.. to. respond... to this... Sorry I can't, Thrillhouse have you seen the amount of crap that third parties have released and will be releasing on the Wii (and DS for that matter)? Ninjabread Man... I think that title says it all. Nintendo's first party stuff is usually great but when it comes to third parties it seems like Nintendo will allow anyone to release anything on their systems as long as it's not rated AO.


No, he agrees, Legend -- that's why he said old strategy. The N64 era was dominated almost entirely by quality games... well, I'd say at least 50/50, one of the best quality/crap ratios of any system ever, and Nintendo hemorraged marketshare anyway. 


You're right.  I should have read his post instead of just giving it a quick glance.



leo-j said:
Garcian Smith said:
And the "Dreamcast Effect" begins.

I'm willing to bet that this won't be the first cancellation we hear about for the PS3 in the next few months.

wat? http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=DC®3=All&align=1


Well nice try, leo, but the problem in your link is that Vgcharts seems to only have Japan data for Dreamcast so this shows worlwide wii and ps3 sales vs only japan dreamcast sales...



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