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Nope, you paid in your previous posts that PS3 owners are always having to wait, to me that implies that you mean we are still waiting for games. Also 360 has not even caught up with this years PS3's sales so lets not get far ahead of ourselves, Sony would also drop the price of there console and everyone will start praising them.

I dont understand then, what is it PS3 owners are waiting for?



 

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Neoraf said:

Sony Fanboys always say:
Just wait...

"Wait until..."
"Next year its gonna..."
"The future looks good..."
"I CAN'T WAIT to..."

Big difference:
We enjoy the present.
You hope for something to change.


Last year, over the same period, the PS3Fanboys were saying: "Wait till 2008!! It will fuckin be year of the PS3!!! The game lineup is far superior from the competition! PS3 will rule all!"

Same thing year over year.
Get real.

Microsoft brings the goods each time. They don't need to unveil all their games 1 year early, unlike Sony.
Look at Gears2:
Unveiled in February 2008.
Released in November 2008.

It must be painful to be a Sony fan.
Always hoping for a brighter future.

Who says Sony fans aren't enjoying the present? MGS4, LBP, Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2 and Valkyria Chronicles are just as good, if not better than the 360's '08 exclusives.

No wait, they are better. I'd take those games over Gears 2, Fable II, Ninja Gaiden 2 and Banjo any day :>

Also, @ your last post, the PS3 DID enjoy awesome games, commercial success and momentum gain (not a huge one, but compared to previous years....)



Sony stepping "out" the plate in 2009



Kantor said:
Neoraf said:

The momentum is in Microsoft Hands.

When Sony will cut the prices... do you believe Microsoft will sit and stare?
Microsoft will probably cut another 100$ on Elites, and will replace Arcade by the Pro(60gb) at 199$.

Xbox Live is the online service of choice.
A true social phenomenon.

With all the big 2009 games for Microsoft (Mass Effect 2, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Star Ocean 4, Halo3 ODST expansion, GTA4 Lost and Damned DLC, Ninja Blade, name it...), I don't know how Sony can gain ground...

For once, I think it's apparent that the PS3 has a bigger lineup for next year. KZ2, GoW3, FF13 and Versus 13 in Japan, Uncharted 2, the next R&C, Heavy Rain, LA Noire (it's made by Rockstar, it has to be good), inFamous, MAG, Twisted Metal, and of course Gran Turismo 5.

I agree, Sony is really stepping up its game next year.

 

 

Seriously like half of these titles won't even arrive in 2009 and some of them (like Uncharted 2, R&C 2 and possibly titles like heavy rain an infamous) will be completely irrelevant , in terms of sales' potential, just like resistance2 and motorstorm 2 are this year.

Every year's end is the same story with the ps3. The truth is that THE ONLY game that will help the ps3 is GRAN TURISMO 5 (and killzone 2 a bit). We had the same thing last year "next year with MGS4, LBP, Resistance 2 blahblahblah...."

Honestly Halo 3:OSDT will sell more than all of sony's 2009 combined and we've yet to learn the 360's line up because unlike sony (and its fanboys) it's all about about Fable 2 and Gears 2 (true monster hits) for MS RIGHT NOW.

 

Oh and The arcade sku will still cost half of what the ps3 will cost in the next holiday season and you can bet on that.....



Unless they can step up to the plate like this guy, I don't think they're going to make much headway in this generation.



Tease.

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fulcizombie said:
Kantor said:
Neoraf said:

The momentum is in Microsoft Hands.

When Sony will cut the prices... do you believe Microsoft will sit and stare?
Microsoft will probably cut another 100$ on Elites, and will replace Arcade by the Pro(60gb) at 199$.

Xbox Live is the online service of choice.
A true social phenomenon.

With all the big 2009 games for Microsoft (Mass Effect 2, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Star Ocean 4, Halo3 ODST expansion, GTA4 Lost and Damned DLC, Ninja Blade, name it...), I don't know how Sony can gain ground...

For once, I think it's apparent that the PS3 has a bigger lineup for next year. KZ2, GoW3, FF13 and Versus 13 in Japan, Uncharted 2, the next R&C, Heavy Rain, LA Noire (it's made by Rockstar, it has to be good), inFamous, MAG, Twisted Metal, and of course Gran Turismo 5.

I agree, Sony is really stepping up its game next year.

 

 

Seriously like half of these titles won't even arrive in 2009 and some of them (like Uncharted 2, R&C 2 and possibly titles like heavy rain an infamous) will be completely irrelevant , in terms of sales' potential, just like resistance2 and motorstorm 2 are this year.

Every year's end is the same story with the ps3. The truth is that THE ONLY game that will help the ps3 is GRAN TURISMO 5 (and killzone 2 a bit). We had the same thing last year "next year with MGS4, LBP, Resistance 2 blahblahblah...."

Honestly Halo 3:OSDT will sell more than all of sony's 2009 combined and we've yet to learn the 360's line up because unlike sony (and its fanboys) it's all about about Fable 2 and Gears 2 (true monster hits) for MS RIGHT NOW.

 

Oh and The arcade sku will still cost half of what the ps3 will cost in the next holiday season and you can bet on that.....

Are you kidding me? Halo 3: ODST currently has a sales CAP of just over 8 million. And 100% of Halo 3 owners are not going to jump on this game.

Let's take WoW and WotLK as examples. 11 million subscribers, yet 2.6 million buy it first week, and I guarantee you after a year, the number will not be in excess of 5 million. Less than half. So we can predict perhaps 4-4.5 million for ODST?

Gran Turismo 5 is going to sell double that easily. KZ2 and GoW3 will easily cross 4 million, maybe 5 million. Heavy Rain and inFamous won't sell very well, but they will both be very good games.

It's foolish to compare LBP and R2 to GT5.

LBP is a new IP. It's 2D. There is an emphasis on creation as opposed to playing. You control a sack. Who expected this to sell well? note that that was not my opinion, but fact. In fact, I think it looks very good and will buy it soon

R2 is the second shooter from Insomniac games. We don't have Europe sales data yet, and when we do, it will be ONE DAY. R2's American launch week was more than 7x that of RFOM.

Gran Turismo 3 was the best selling exclusive last gen. Over 14 million sales. In fact, it's the second best selling game of that gen, fullstop. The only thing that sold better was GTA San Andreas, with around 17 million. GT is a massive franchise, and it has system selling potential probably as strong as Halo. Maybe stronger. We can safely predict 8 million LTD.

In fact, I predict that GT5 will sell more than Sony's entire 2008 holiday lineup combined. Certainly more than Gears 2.

Why does everybody keep quoting LBP's sales figures as a sign of things to come. LBP was a rare, one in a million game. It's unlikely we will see anything like LBP in 2009.

 

 

 



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PS3 is full of untapped potentials.

Nintendo and Microsoft just need to stop tapping for a year or 2.



Hate to add flavour, I think VGchartz is undertracking the 360 substantially. twice now M$ have stated that their userbase is 25 mill+. I have a feeling by the end of the year PS3 may be as far behind as 8.5 - 9mill when VGchartz corrects numbers.



"Gran Turismo 5 is going to sell double that easily. KZ2 and GoW3 will easily cross 4 million, maybe 5 million. Heavy Rain and inFamous won't sell very well, but they will both be very good games."


To this date
GT 4 sold 9.5 million world wide
KZ 1 sold 1.5 million or so
God of War 2 sold 2.33 million

Your numbers need some major adjusting. 



Kantor said:
fulcizombie said:
Kantor said:
Neoraf said:

The momentum is in Microsoft Hands.

When Sony will cut the prices... do you believe Microsoft will sit and stare?
Microsoft will probably cut another 100$ on Elites, and will replace Arcade by the Pro(60gb) at 199$.

Xbox Live is the online service of choice.
A true social phenomenon.

With all the big 2009 games for Microsoft (Mass Effect 2, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Star Ocean 4, Halo3 ODST expansion, GTA4 Lost and Damned DLC, Ninja Blade, name it...), I don't know how Sony can gain ground...

For once, I think it's apparent that the PS3 has a bigger lineup for next year. KZ2, GoW3, FF13 and Versus 13 in Japan, Uncharted 2, the next R&C, Heavy Rain, LA Noire (it's made by Rockstar, it has to be good), inFamous, MAG, Twisted Metal, and of course Gran Turismo 5.

I agree, Sony is really stepping up its game next year.

 

 

Seriously like half of these titles won't even arrive in 2009 and some of them (like Uncharted 2, R&C 2 and possibly titles like heavy rain an infamous) will be completely irrelevant , in terms of sales' potential, just like resistance2 and motorstorm 2 are this year.

Every year's end is the same story with the ps3. The truth is that THE ONLY game that will help the ps3 is GRAN TURISMO 5 (and killzone 2 a bit). We had the same thing last year "next year with MGS4, LBP, Resistance 2 blahblahblah...."

Honestly Halo 3:OSDT will sell more than all of sony's 2009 combined and we've yet to learn the 360's line up because unlike sony (and its fanboys) it's all about about Fable 2 and Gears 2 (true monster hits) for MS RIGHT NOW.

 

Oh and The arcade sku will still cost half of what the ps3 will cost in the next holiday season and you can bet on that.....

Are you kidding me? Halo 3: ODST currently has a sales CAP of just over 8 million. And 100% of Halo 3 owners are not going to jump on this game.

Let's take WoW and WotLK as examples. 11 million subscribers, yet 2.6 million buy it first week, and I guarantee you after a year, the number will not be in excess of 5 million. Less than half. So we can predict perhaps 4-4.5 million for ODST?

Gran Turismo 5 is going to sell double that easily. KZ2 and GoW3 will easily cross 4 million, maybe 5 million. Heavy Rain and inFamous won't sell very well, but they will both be very good games.

It's foolish to compare LBP and R2 to GT5.

LBP is a new IP. It's 2D. There is an emphasis on creation as opposed to playing. You control a sack. Who expected this to sell well? note that that was not my opinion, but fact. In fact, I think it looks very good and will buy it soon

R2 is the second shooter from Insomniac games. We don't have Europe sales data yet, and when we do, it will be ONE DAY. R2's American launch week was more than 7x that of RFOM.

Gran Turismo 3 was the best selling exclusive last gen. Over 14 million sales. In fact, it's the second best selling game of that gen, fullstop. The only thing that sold better was GTA San Andreas, with around 17 million. GT is a massive franchise, and it has system selling potential probably as strong as Halo. Maybe stronger. We can safely predict 8 million LTD.

In fact, I predict that GT5 will sell more than Sony's entire 2008 holiday lineup combined. Certainly more than Gears 2.

Why does everybody keep quoting LBP's sales figures as a sign of things to come. LBP was a rare, one in a million game. It's unlikely we will see anything like LBP in 2009.

 

 

 

Here is why this post fails.

I will point out that Halo 3 has exceeded the encatchment of Halo 2 and likewise Halo 2 over 1. Now I understand that ODST is an expansion, but to Halo fans (you obviously dont know Halo fans) it's the second coming of christ. Brand new single player and more multiplayer I bet ODST sells 7mill+ LT